Push Push, and where did sloth go?

If this is how it is going to be, then I’m done. Doing a mob you’ve killed 10000 times in the past and all the sudden he dispels you? And not just a change, I HATE being dispelled. Take this mud and go to hell. You have ruined it. You have driven players and imms away. You are just the end of sloth and I feel so hurt not for myself, because sloth was an institution. I hate you. Rot and die, you punks. This is from a builder, an immort, that was level 45 and told them to wipe me twice because of their behavior. I came back because I thought things could change and evertyime splork came back, bs returned. This is your mud, have fun with it.

disp

Rogue heroically rescues Hounds.

Playboy utters the words, ‘candusgugh yufz’

Rogue reports 1131/1086 hp. Change: +103. Need: 0. Spells: greater fluidity, aegis.

<730hp 239ma 242mv>

Ok.

You feel a spell unravel! Success!

You feel dizzy for a moment…

You feel a spell unravel! Success!

You feel dizzy for a moment…

You feel a spell unravel! Success!

You feel dizzy for a moment…

You feel a spell unravel! Success!

You feel dizzy for a moment…

You feel a spell unravel! Success!

You feel dizzy for a moment…

You feel a spell unravel! Success!

You feel dizzy for a moment…

You feel a spell unravel! Success!

You feel dizzy for a moment…

You feel a spell unravel! Success!

You feel dizzy for a moment…

You suddenly have a feeling that everything is not right!

You grouptell: ‘WWwwwwwwwwAAAAAaaaaaahhHHHHHH!!!!’

In all channels.. that is nice. I tried to help you, you dicks. You stupid dicks, you are some big ass punks. there is ICQ and MS messneger.

Have fun with your mud, youre #1 leader

Toxis,

Your Leader

baby babality Toxis – ‘WWwwwwwwwAAAAAAaaaaaahhHHHHHH!!!!’

thats a little over they top you no shout then you dont alow himt to speak in group or guild why this just seams a realy big insult to do to some

This was not a recent change. It was part of a mob proc behavior that has been in game for a long time. You just never noticed it or got hit with it before.

This is no excuse to get on gossip, once again, and curse people out. Why would you curse out Jezer if you’re mad at a mob / the admin?

If you go berserk on a public channel and start cursing and swearing and raising a big ruckus, you’re going to get noshouted.

Threatening to bring down the mud if we don’t do what you want is not going to be effective. Neither is your clan mates threatening to leave or threatening to start botting.

When you get like you tend to get, you need to log off, eat something, and mellow out. You are a non-compliant diabetic and it’s making you act like a total lunatic. If you continue on this course, you’re going to go into a diabetic coma.

The rules apply to everyone. If you use foul language on public channels, you will receive a noshout of 1 hour from me if I’m on. If you continue to make a huge fuss and make threats, etc, I will afflict you with babality.

I don’t think this policy qualifies me as a ‘dictator’ etc… The rules regarding civilized discourse on public channels have not changed in over 10 years.

your’e right jug.. I’m so stupid… I QUIT

-TOXIS

noshouting we can understand,but bability was just dumb. mud isnt as fun anymore

cheers

So I’m wondering, Toxis and Godz is gone, who’s going to lead your stupid little mud?

your’e right jug.. I’m so stupid… I QUIT

-TOXIS[/quote:1ds1n1p5]

You quit because of a mob proc or because I noshouted you?

That mob proc has been around a long time.
No one on this mud has stood up for you more than me.

Eat some damn food, get some sleep, and mull it over. What really changed in the course of that hour besides your blood sugar level?

That mob always had reflection?

I don’t agree with Toxis’ approach but I do agree with his point. Juggleblood, you can say all you want that that mob proc has been there, he may have not been hit with it, but I’ve been mudding for over ten years and have seen that mob hit too, too many times and have NEVER seen it dispel ANYONE. I asked around from the veterans and got the same consensus. Toxis and Godz probably hit it the most, outside of the people I asked, and they agree that it never dispelled. Quit fucking with the damn mobs dependent on how people cycle things, how many people hit them, and adding autoquest stuff to commonly run xp/eq mobs so you are forced to beef them up. These three things are pissing off people that actually learn techniques and tricks to kill things… (or just people that have become accustomed to cycling things on an xp run and then poof there is a magical dispel/reflection proc that ‘has always been there’ yet never fired). Tweaking with things in these ways, such as how fallon, green dragon, and wu were changed…leads to nothing but veterans leaving who have found ways to kill these things with smaller numbers. Wanting people to group with larger numbers is one thing, forcing it when they don’t is just bad imming.

*If you are claiming it was reflection, it’s awfully funny that any time the mob has ever had it up over years of running, we’ve never seen it dispel the attempting dispeller before in groups.

Oh dear,

I stop playing for a couple of weeks (refound Oblivion the Elder Scrolls IV and realised I’d never got as far as closing all the oblivion gates so taking a short holiday from sloth to do so) and the whole place seems to be falling apart.

I know you’re all missing me and all this angst and bad feeling is really just a projection of your longing to see me again you should all know that I do feel guilty for not being there.

Please all of you blame me entirely for the problems that have kicked this thread off … it is ultimately all my fault.

I will be back soon.

Nobody has changed that mob, the proc has been there for years but rarely triggers in that way. Imms are not and will not be dispelling anyone or changing mobs while players are running them or they will be wiped.

I just grepped ALL immortal logs and the last 8 days we have been up for setpr & wu and statpr & wu, what this means is any time an Immortal either changed wu’s proc or stated it, I would see.

log.txt:2009-11-17 06:50:20 ** 4687:statproc:Splork:statpr wu: **

log.txt:2009-11-17 06:57:19 ** 4687:statproc:Splork:statpr wu: **

And not ONE imm has setproc this mob since sloth started. So there is no results for this one.

New Mobile Procedures:

#0 [ 2] rampage ON, Cy=Up&Down St=75% Dm=+1/85 Ht=+1/20

#1 [14] mage ON

#2 [16] damage_affect ON

CONFIG_ID[1] Type: PROC[14] - mage

PROC_INIT [TEMP]="1";

CFG_ID="1";

PROC_NUM="14";

PROC_ENABLED="1";

caster_level="40";

chance_heal="10";

chance_attack="35";

chance_special="5";

does_ward="0";

does_silence="0";

does_escape="0";

no_area="1";

max_mana="275";

max_mana_per_spell="36";

dont_cast="web:hermetic ward:mirror image:curse:phase door:teleport";

CFG_SOURCE_MSG="read on load";

The truth of the matter is, Toxis was drunk off his ass again last night and threw his 100000th tantrum and got punished for it. Another one of his famous over rections.

Ezekiel’s post has me extremely confused since about the only thing we have changed in game since we began this version of Sloth is the gold one one area that gave up 35 mil in one week and a few auto quests that most of us felt needed some adjusting. Both of these situations were brought to our attention by fellow players and then checked into via playerstats and logs.

We have continually given back to the players during this version and will continue a long this path.

Splork

Please all of you blame me entirely for the problems that have kicked this thread off … it is ultimately all my fault.

T[/quote:tivv09qv]

I knew it!

Ta is leading ‘XP?’ on Thordfalan:

        (Ma:3.30)   Ta

        (Wa:3.30)   Badden

        (Ba:3.29)   Kanae

        (Wa:0.34)   Freemad

        (Ba:3.22)   Blackmore

        (Cl:3.26)   Jag

        (Cl:4.28)   Zuzu

        (Ba:0.20)   Playboy

        (Wa:0.10)   Tekra

And I bet he leads without 10 minute baby afks and ending the group every time with a drunken tirade.

I stood up for you and stuck my neck out for you left and right Brad, but you are poison and if you finally do decide to retire, I personally will be relieved at this point. You automatically assume everyone is out to get you, its just become a bit hard to take and it makes it pretty unpleasant for many of us. Even you have to realize you are ridiculous.

Sa/Godz – dont be influenced by him, do your own thing. If you want to play, play. If not best of luck.

You can make this about me. Where are the countless friends who have quit in the past 7 months? If you can’t remember them all… just look at the top… Godmode, Magi, Stryx, Toxis… there’s milestones… and where are the others? You say you have an awesome mud gathereing players, but you really don’t realize anything I’ve tried to say. And that is the ultimate reason I’m done and leaving. I’ve tried so hard to make you realize what you’re doing to our mud.

Where’s Alana? Where’s Wasp? Where are the hundreds of imms who quit because of horrible admin? You have no idea. You can’t gather the concept of it all. Forget about me, just realize what you’ve done, for the love of sloth. Just THINK about us all who have left and ask why. Just ask why and wonder if it made sloth better.

-Brad

disp

Rogue heroically rescues Hounds.

Playboy utters the words, ‘candusgugh yufz’

Rogue reports 1131/1086 hp. Change: +103. Need: 0. Spells: greater fluidity, aegis.

<730hp 239ma 242mv>

Ok.

You feel a spell unravel! Success!

You feel dizzy for a moment…

You feel a spell unravel! Success!

You feel dizzy for a moment…

You feel a spell unravel! Success!

You feel dizzy for a moment…

…

There is an alternate universe in which the next thing that happened was this:

You tell Splork ‘hey, any idea if Wu is supposed to be dispelling people now?’

Though in that alternate universe, this crier thread doesn’t exist. Also, there are more fluffy bunnies and happy little clouds.

Hm. Afk for a week or so and I seem to miss all the fun.

@Mace: The fluffy bunnies and happy little clouds all seem to be notell. Or invisible.

@Toxis:

Curious though:

“You have ruined it.”

“You have driven players and imms away.”

“…but you don’t realize anything I’ve tried to say.”

“This is your mud…”

“You can make this all about me.”

Who’s this “you/your” you keep referring to? The admin? The people responding?

How is this mystery “you” making this all about “me”? I see a lot of “I QUIT”, “I HATE being dispelled”, “I hate you.”, “…anything I’ve tried to say.”, &c. I don’t really see anyone else making it about yourself aside from yourself: everyone else is simply responding to you. Is this “I” and “you” the same? If “you” is the entire imm staff, didn’t you also state that you were a significant part of said staff by being a builder and an immort that was level 45? Or do all these negative things only apply to the rest and exclude yourself. Please help clarify this for me.

So the mob reflected a dispel. I’m curious, did this cf the entire group? Did Wu wipe the group because of this fluke chance occurrence? Was there no chance at recall? Did it break the game? Did the stars fall out of the sky? Or was it just a minor inconvenience/maybe another four, five minutes of regen.

A noshout and a babality. Is this really too extreme? So what would players propose then? What would be considered “fair”, or “just”? I am truly curious about this matter.

Imms are here to help sloth. There is nothing to be gained by having imms being at ends with the playerbase. I have no idea where this ‘imms are out to get the population’ mentality is even coming from. See splork’s post really, that sums things up rather succinctly.

Honestly, I almost quit being an imm because I saw and received a high amount of flak from just a small a handful of loud players just because I did things that they didn’t like. Fallon changed. Chobbs did it. Chobbs must be trying to destroy the mud. No other explanation. Never mind anything else he’s done. Chobbs must be bad because he made one thing harder. Two things? Three? Oh, he must be another evil imm. Or the entire imm staff is corrupt. I happen to like the other imms; they’re fun to work with, and I see nothing but their dedication to making sloth better.

Sloth is just a game. Games end. Sometimes folks just move on to other things in life. It’s sad when friends go, but I also see that you also continue to make a lot more.

At the risk of being considered part of this “you” that is making this about “me”, I will saying please stay. You’re an amiable fellow when you’re relaxed, so let’s aim for more of that shall we?

Chobbs!

Many many people have come and gone from sloth, we lost people over the years like Argent, Blush, Raphael, the pittsburgh crew, the south florida guys, I can go on and on – its just the nature of it. If you are done and no longer enjoying it, then be done with it. Those of us who are staying really are trying to make it the best place we can – sometimes change is rough, but sometimes it is needed because in the end the mud will be better off with it. Your opinion is just that, one opinion, and I personally feel like you just have no clue anymore, or Ive lost what you are trying to say with how you’ve been saying it.

Note to weasel – whatever your opinion, that kind of personal attack and name calling wont be permitted. If you have a well thought out argument then we can work with that.

last player wasp

Wasp’s last logon was Mon Nov 9 21:57:25 2009

[44t 0m 44c 44w 44d 44n 44b 44o 44a] Wasp the Untitled

He is walking areas and helping us with a rather large project that we are working on behind the scenes.

I have no clue regarding Alana, she has been gone for a decade.

Its not so clearly evident(they rarely are when he is intoxicated) but he was referring to me as “you”.

Either way, good luck with whatever you choose to do, we are moving forward in a very positive manner.

Splork

Yeah Tox is probably in the wrong in this case, and should aplogise, often however he isn’t wrong and raises many good and valid points.

All sort of irrelevant now, I am not however liking the look of this thread any more. This has become a lets all gang up on Tox thread. He claimed you were ganging up on him, he was probably wrong to start but this thread has become just that.

Can’t we all group hug and move on? I hate to see any player leave, I have a lot of time for Tox and would not like to see him either forced away /backed into a corner / backing himself into a corner where he feels unable to play.

This is a game, its supposed to be fun, lets all have fun together,

I wonder why this is really even an issue. Some people run right on that line between disaster and bigger disaster. Most all of us have become used to brad’s tyrades. hell i even enjoy them because it breaks up the monotony of bh xp. if he stays away this time i’ll miss that more than the leading. it happens, ya get slapped on the wrist, ya cool down, ya come back. it’s the circle of life around here. and that applies to most of the people who got their milestorn eq and left. you push that hard and you tend to get burned out. i couldn’t begin to count how many times i’ve felt that way and taken an extended break. hell i’m doin it right now. it has nothing to do with the gameplay it’s just the nature of the beast. personally i think it would be nice if every mob did something random from time to time. i’m not talking about an insta-cf but a nice lil quirk now and then keeps things interesting.

maybe it’s just old age and i’ve mellowed a bit too much. but lets face it, the imms are bending over backwards and making this game way too damned easy. it took the better part of three years on s2 to get a char to 4x40. now we’re so spoiled that if we can’t get there in two weeks the imms are evil and out to get us. slow down and actually enjoy the game a bit. i laugh everytime that sa has to recall from the vines on the way to mh because he has no idea what the run is if he doesn’t use his script. every area on the mud should be randomly teleported once a week. now we’re havin some fun. take a day to go to a new area and check the mobs out. instead of trying to make a 5 man group run the same bh mobs, just 1 at a time. find an area actually suited to that group. dark chasm has some amazing xp for a 3-4 man group. but it’s not on bh so it must be evil. back in the day i was as hardcore as anyone, only now i wish i took the time to actually get to know some of the people. i didn’t forget their names, i never took the time to even learn them. quit worrying about the mobs and take the time to get to know the folks, it’s way more fun.

ohh, and the reason why nobody from the old GAIDIN clan (actually it was the hosers clan) makes a fuss is we are all to lazy or too afk to worry about it much. that was a pre-requisite for getting in. not gold, just general apathy.

take off eh,

strider

chocolate is god.

“it’s all right, captain. we always knew you were a whoopsie.” -old pirate –>stardust

Baby is 2 and in process of potty training. Rebel, you F’n stupid pothead c-nt, go F yourself. Children normally are potty trained from 2 to 3 years of age. You’re probably the dumbest bitch on the planet. If I were your kid, I’d cut my wrists. You stupid F’n COW.

Oh yeah, to reply to that “it doesn’t take 2 to change a diaper” it does, however, take one to bot. Which is supposed to be against the rules, so I try very hard to wait till Rogue was at her computer. BLAME THE F’N RULES, you stupid Fcks.

I’m nice enough to lead when no one else will and I am told by Krom that I regen too long because of the baby? When I’m the only healer and it takes me over 10 minutes to regen, mem, and keep my spells up? Damn, I wish I had never let you in my groups, Krom. Go to Reb’s house, make luv and smoke some pot together with her kids. Did I not tell you regen is too slow on sloth? Stupid.. stupid people.

Wow Toxis, you are a prick.

ps- and yeah, this is news to me.. I pretty much lost any respect I had for you..not that it matters but damn dude, you need a life

I get very defensive when people who don’t even know wtf is going on, says I’m not raising my children right.

If I’m a prick for that, then thank god. I would hope any person in the world would feel the same way.