Pthieves, Builders Port, and Immortals -- The Bottom Line

In reply to the debate taking place over pthieving immts, allow me to clear this up for everyone. Immortals on the active game port are held to rules preventing them from participating in suspect or unacceptable behavior due to the fact that they have access to live character information and live area information. Builders on the builder’s port are not held to these same strict guidelines because the area samples provided on the builder’s port are old files with little up-to-date information and NO active mortal players to spy on. Very few, if any, builders become active immortals on game site. Those that do are held to the same principles as any other immortal. One of our guidelines in determining whether anyone (builder or active mortal) is allowed to become an immortal on the game site is their behavior throughout their gaming career. As such, a known past pthief has very little chance of becoming an immortal, and a current, active pthief has no chance of becoming an immortal on game site.

The builder’s port was designed to give players with questionable pasts, and players who do not want the responsiblity of being a fulltime immortal, the chance to contribute something positive to the future of Sloth. However, builders whose behavior on game site is excessively abusive or harassing to the quality of game play for everyone else are also subject to losing their builder privileges. Each case is handled on a case-by-case basis in these situations. Each and every person who is willing - and able - to put forth an effort to enhance some aspect of the game is afforded the opportunity to do so on the builder’s port.

Regarding pkilling pthieves. The decision to place a temporary hiatous on pthieving might become permanent, but there has been no decision as of yet to make it a permanent restriction. If the decision to reinstate allowed pthieving is made, I’m almsot positive these “retired” pthieves would once again become active. As such, we have imposed no such ban on pkilling known pthieves as of the current time. A player who has pthieving characters who wishes to play legitimately now is afforded the chance to make a new character, or use a character that is not known as a pthief and will be protected by the same rules as any other character. In other words, if Bo and Luke are the same player, but Bo is a pthief and Luke isn’t… anyone caught pkilling Luke will be subject to the same punishment as any other illegal pkilling, Bo, on the other hand, is still fair game. If the ruling on pthieving changes (becomes permanent or otherwise), a decision will be made at that time regarding how to treat such situations.

Akasha

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Wts ~ (level: 9)

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(never pthieved with this char before)

You gossip– ‘hee hee, you guys can’t pkill me no more’

Yinao gossips– ‘wanna bet :)’

You gossip– ‘read the crier yinao =)’

Yinao tells you ‘i can still make alts to pkill you :)’

Yinao tells you ‘fyi if they get wiped woopdy doo :)’

Yinao tells you ‘wouldnt matter as long as i got your eq and junked it all

anyways :)’

You tell Yinao ‘but dude..i have no eq =(’

Yinao tells you ‘well if you start playing again your sure to get some :)’

Yinao tells you ‘it wouldnt be too hard i know imms that can log ips’

May I know what the MUD’s current policy is on that? I really do want to rejoin as a normal player but I’m not going to risk it if people like Yinao can threaten me like that, especially when claiming he can trace me down with an immort’s help.

As such, a known past pthief has very little chance of becoming an immortal, and a current, active pthief has no chance of becoming an immortal on game site.

Akasha[/quote:2hbac0xb]

mwahahahahahahahaha

smirk :roll: And I have heard you have tried to pthief with that char……So I will ask this question, is that why you never leave VK inn? For me its worth risking and alt to see if you have :)

smirk :roll: And I have heard you have tried to pthief with that char……So I will ask this question, is that why you never leave VK inn? For me its worth risking and alt to see if you have :)[/quote:1e4qsqe1]

Go ahead then. I’m sure you know I’m Pulp now.

Just general info for everyone =)

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Wts ~ (level: 9)

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(never pthieved with this char before)

You gossip– ‘hee hee, you guys can’t pkill me no more’

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Don’t be ridiculous. This possibly temporary ban on pthieving is not going to be an opportunity for you to put some levels on your pthief chars in case the ban is later lifted.

If I see any of your pthief alts outside a safe zone, I’m coming for you. Period.

If you want to play, start a char without thief or bard in classo and don’t bother to tell us its you. Easy enuff, no?

Nods, I know your pulp there is a difference tho…. Pulp has no steal class, however, wts seems to :)

Don’t be ridiculous. This possibly temporary ban on pthieving is not going to be an opportunity for you to put some levels on your pthief chars in case the ban is later lifted.

If I see any of your pthief alts outside a safe zone, I’m coming for you. Period.

If you want to play, start a char without thief or bard in classo and don’t bother to tell us its you. Easy enuff, no?[/quote:2v8nggue]

Okay, but I don’t think it’s up to you to decide.

Here, my char name is Pulp. It used to have no thief/bard in it but I’ve changed my mind and now it’s a thief bard. I’m doing it because I felt like playing a thief bard, and I shouldn’t be restricted to a classo that doesn’t have either of them just because you told me not to do it. I’m telling you, this is my alt. You don’t run the MUD, don’t tell me what to do.

I don’t need more pthief chars anyway, I’ve got a 3x40 and 2x40 to pthief with if that part of the MUD comes back.

Poop wrote:

May I know what the MUD’s current policy is on that? I really do want to rejoin as a normal player but I’m not going to risk it if people like Yinao can threaten me like that

Sniff your not gunna let a poor little cleric like me run you off after you ran others off would you? :evil: I mean I would hate to see you leave and all after making others do the same.

Sniff your not gunna let a poor little cleric like me run you off after you ran others off would you? :evil: I mean I would hate to see you leave and all after making others do the same.[/quote:3ktlq55m]

Nah, I’m not worried. I spoke to Akasha about it and I’m going to continue playing Pulp. Let’s group!

Nah, I’m not worried. I spoke to Akasha about it and I’m going to continue playing Pulp. Let’s group![/quote:2lo9vqci]

Go group with your mom. You’ve accepted your path of pthief (your own words from another topic) so live with it and shut up.

Go group with your mom. You’ve accepted your path of pthief (your own words from another topic) so live with it and shut up.[/quote:2h76buel]

Er, right. I would if my mom played here.

Anyway, I’m going to take the advice of several players who are encouraging me to continue playing. I’m just going to make a character and keep quiet about my identity. I think it’s pretty pointless if nobody let me in groups and I soloed the whole game.

I don’t know what exactly I’ve done for you to say ‘shut up’ because that’s precisely what I’m doing. The immorts have come up with a new rule that now protects me and yes, I will shut up and play the game. Looking forward to group to you anonymously =)

Er, right. I would if my mom played here.

I’m not grouping with strangers, especially newly-created or low-levels until them prove to be alts of those i know personally.

Every classo that has access to Steal skill less than 4x40 counted to me as pthief, unless i know them personally.

Every ‘player’ who encourages a known pthief to ‘continue playing’ counted as enemy.

I change eq only if i’m absolutely sure theres no pthief-threat around.

I have a same-quality replace of almost every eq i wear.

If i see you around - i wont do almost anything. Triggers will do the job.

You lose. :roll:

Go group with your mom. You’ve accepted your path of pthief (your own words from another topic) so live with it and shut up.[/quote:3rsqqvs0]

Er, right. I would if my mom played here.

Then shouldn’t part of your plan be to shut up and not tell us so we won’t start suspecting each lowbie that comes around now? Sheesh, now leaders are gonna have to think twice about helping newbs out. Good work.

I just said that aloud, its already there. What else did you expect after that ‘Pthief survival guide’?! Newcomers read forum also, they may try a ‘different way of playing’ as well.

I’m not grouping with strangers, especially newly-created or low-levels until them prove to be alts of those i know personally.

Every classo that has access to Steal skill less than 4x40 counted to me as pthief, unless i know them personally.

Every ‘player’ who encourages a known pthief to ‘continue playing’ counted as enemy.

I change eq only if i’m absolutely sure theres no pthief-threat around.

I have a same-quality replace of almost every eq i wear.

If i see you around - i wont do almost anything. Triggers will do the job.

You lose. :roll:[/quote:xjtljiaa]

Urm are you quite aware that the command ‘steal’ doesn’t work on players anymore? Your reply suggests that you don’t know that, considering you are so hyped up on getting pthieves. And triggers? For what? Why would I log in a pthief char if I can’t do anything with it accept get killed?

I don’t lose anything, you’re not even a frequent leader on this MUD. In fact you’re probably incapable of doing that. The rest of the leaders in this place happen to enjoy helping newbies instead of suspecting everyone who is able to steal under avatar levels is a pthief and someone you can’t trust.

The only thing lost here is your trust in people in this MUD, thanks to pthieves. And I’m not even sorry for that because it’s a dumb thing to do to stop trusting everyone else just because a couple of people did something that pissed you off.

I hope that answers your question as well Malorne, I quite frankly don’t care.

The only thing lost here is your trust in people in this MUD, thanks to pthieves.[/quote:2spt3f0q]

Thanx to you and the likes. I repeat - i just saying aloud all that many pps else think of.

What esle do you expect? Blindly thusting everyone while you easily can make a new character, warm your way into my confidence and rob me when i’m most vulnerable? :) You cant blame me for protecting my posessions. Anyway, who else will protect me while admins create new rules to protect former pthieves?!

Here’s my point of view, having been on both sides of the law on sloth for much of my time here.

As a former pthief, I’d gladly offer any pthief the chance to “reform” and integrate back into the mud community if they show the desire to do so. However, setting rules that grants a blanket general pardon to all of them just because stealing has been disabled is ridiculous. They chose their actions, they pay the consequences regardless. Of course they should be left alone if they seriously wish to mud proper again.

There’s a difference between pthieving, and general harassment as people like hades have been doing.

For them to rub it in while this temporary ruling is in effect, disqualifies them from any goodwill from fellow mudders.

You’re not going to let a child-sex-offender into your house just because he’s been chemically castrated, this shouldn’t be any different.

An immort (Akasha) has stated very clearly how things stand right now, so there is little point arguing about it:

[quote:2440rwtv] We have imposed no such ban on pkilling known pthieves as of the current time. A player who has pthieving characters who wishes to play legitimately now is afforded the chance to make a new character, or use a character that is not known as a pthief and will be protected by the same rules as any other character. [/quote:2440rwtv]

Pretty simple - if it’s a known pthief char, kill it. If it’s not a known pthief char, don’t kill it.

From the wording, you pthieves will need to create -new- characters to play straight. Yes, this still allows playas to make a whole hoard of new pthief-ready chars in anticipation of the removal of the no-pthieving restriction. Hopefully pthieving will never be permitted again and this will become a moot issue. If it is allowed again, no doubt all hell will break loose. In the meantime, I’m thankful pthieving is gone and I will not pkill any newly created chars, even if they are being played by a pthieving human. At the same time, logging on a new char and taunting everyone that they can’t pkill you is pretty much going to guarantee a solo career for you on sloth, and no doubt some will take time to web you, blind you, and generally make your time online difficult, so why bother being a smartass about it.

[quote:284okjg3]I’m not grouping with strangers,[/quote:284okjg3]

Rofl, Yasik you barely even play Sloth, let alone group!

“Yasik wrote: I’m not grouping with strangers, especially newly-created or low-levels until them prove to be alts of those i know personally.
Every classo that has access to Steal skill less than 4x40 counted to me as pthief, unless i know them personally.

hey yASSix: i play requiem, a lev 20 bard prime. are you going to pk him just because he has the bard class? although i have never been nor will ever be a pth are you condeming him to web/blind/kill just for his classo? if so, watch your back. i will treat all of YOUR chars as pths as well. remember, what comes around, goes around.

“i’d like you to meet two friend of mine. they never miss”–tintin –>the crow

“In other words, if Bo and Luke are the same player, but Bo is a pthief and Luke isn’t… anyone caught pkilling Luke will be subject to the same punishment as any other illegal pkilling, Bo, on the other hand, is still fair game.”

My understanding was that known alts of a pthief are fair game. In other words, we have been allowed to kill other characters used by a pthief in the past. Could you clarify this Akasha?

Chucky I believe with the new change that players can NOT steal from

another char … If that pthief makes a “new” char the old rules doesn’t

apply, so you can not pkill the new alt.

That’s what I figure too, but I’m hoping I understood the message incorrectly.

If “Bo” is the pthief who steals from me, I’m not angry at “Bo”. I’m angry at “Henry” who might be the human that plays the pthief character. It’s the human who is the scum that destroys my enjoyment of the game by stealing eq from me.

It’s like saying that one of my characters has something stolen, but I can’t use another character to hunt the thief. Like if I log out one character and play another, I won’t be upset anymore because I’m not playing the character who was looted. That’s pretty silly.

The characters weren’t abused by the pthieve rules, humans were.

Charles

charles old friend…

might i remind you that logic and sense do not apply here..

this game only caters fairly to those that are janus.

I think enough is enough. Its getting to be silly on both sides of this pthief coin.

Any pthief seen on the mud, in pthief form or when it is figured out what their new or old alt chars is, should be given equal and fair treatment.

Web, blind, sleep. I figure its only fair to disrupt a pthief/persons gameplay, as much as they have bothered to disrupt others. To think you can walk in with a new char and enjoy the game you tried so hard to mess up is laughable.

To expect anything less is foolish and stupid.

Even if pthieving turns into something of the past permanently, the arguments regarding the treatment of these players will never stop. Some are going to tell others not to help these people, some will feel it’s unfair for them. It all goes back to how so many players on this MUD love telling people what they think is right and calling everyone else a dumbass because others don’t agree with them.

Anyway, though this statement seems to bring a lot of truth, I find it funny how Al gets accepted back in the game.

“You’re not going to let a child-sex-offender into your house just because he’s been chemically castrated, this shouldn’t be any different.”

If you can use that analogy to describe pthieves, then you’re clearly referring to yourself as one of them. The only difference between you and I in this context is that I’m a child-sex-offender who got castrated a day ago, while you were one who has been released sometime ago and did some rehabilitation and community service. Does that mean I’ll be accepted again if I started being nice to everyone on a new character?

Contrary to what a lot of you think, I’m not trying to be a smartass at all. When I start telling everyone about a new rule that they can’t pkill me, all I’m trying to do is to get responses and to see how the MUD would treat me as a normal player. Now that I know how so many of you think I should just shut up about my identity and start a new char, that’s precisely what I’ll do.

Lastly, Mosaix, “web, blind, sleep” would be a rather silly thing to do. I’m protected under all rules of a normal player so that would be considered harrassing me and you may be warned for it. Once again, not trying to be a smartass, but someone webbed me yesterday in Valk and Akasha dispelled me. Just sharing a bit of info with you.

Thanks for the feedback. Maybe I’ll reveal my identity in about a year.

Pthief shocked that the mud doesn’t like him! Filmed at 11!

What the hell you can group w/ me.

Gimlet pondered…

There’s a difference between pthieving, and general harassment as people like hades have been doing.

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Right, logging on and checking shops… typing gwho… typing time and gossiping Got it! before renting sent chills down your side?

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:twisted:

heh

if u think I was allowed back into the game peacefully, u’re mighty wrong.

i was harassed, webbed, blinded, pkilled for quite a while. I never once whined and whinged about it, tho it seems that it’s only harassment if your victim whines about it.

I made the effort to contribute to the mud, and help out people. Yes, I may still have a potty mouth and act like a smart alec, but those who know me will know that it’s just a persona i adopted on the mud.

On another note, I think this mud is starting to become rather like the country I live in. Rules are only enforced if you whine, then if u whine the admin tells you to stop whining and do somethinc constructive.

some time ago a certain imm whose char name rhymes with a certain part of the female anatomy started spreading rumors around that I was poolp., posted imm info about me “stealing” 48 times in 1 day from Mustang, etc etc. As far as I know, nothing was done to this retard. So you know, rules don’t apply to all the imms as they claim it does.

so now u can’t pkill known pthief’s alts, u can’t web/blind them, neither can u web/blind idiots who screw you over. So are we going to start doing background checks on people who create new chars, and submit them to IQ and means testing?

AFAIK, where disciplinary measures are concerned, the immortals will generally intervene only when pkilling is involved - webbing etc is most often left to the players to sort out amongst themselves, unless it gets excessive or it is malicious and unprovoked. Basically it’s a judgment call by the immorts as to when (or if) they should get involved, but as a rough guideline, any actions deemed to be significantly disrupting the harmony of the mud are liable for immortal intervention. Correct me if I’m wrong - things may well have changed.

IMHO pthieving was removed in order to better slothmud, and most players are very glad to see it gone, so in the spirit of goodwill and in appreciation for the immorts making this change, perhaps we non-pthieves can leave -new- chars belonging to ex-pthieves alone (and they are ex-pthieves now - it’s impossible not to be) and hope they learn they can enjoy slothmud as a legit player rather than an antagonistic pthieving asshat. Don’t give them a reason to revert to their old ways first chance they get (touch wood), as understandably hard as that may be considering just how much of a negative impact they made on the game for many players.

As I see it, we’ve been given an opportunity to show slothmud is better off without pthieving, so lets not fuck that opportunity up.

Just one Weasel’s opinion.

Pthieving is over, congrats those of you (us) who diliked ptheft as part of sloth have won the arguement with the imms (for now at least) lets be good winners, accept the victory and not carry on the fight we already won.

Personally I really dislike people being dubbed whiners on here, it smacks of the pthieves (the usual culprits) being the poor winners that most bullies were when they got away with it.

“Ptheft is part of sloth, live with it, learn how to deal with it … yeah I ruined your day/week/months worth of playing in a matter of minutes but so what I felt like it and it your own fault really”

I’ve never been taken in by any of these spurious and ridiculous arguements. Lets not be the poor winners they were.

Lets just leave the now ex-pthieves to get on with whatever it is they now want to do, stop giving them the exposure their blatant insecurity and inferiority complexes obviously crave, secure in the knowledge that ptheft is now no longer part of sloth and its their turn to “live with it”.

Lets end this thread … please.

@Thraxas:

For you information, there are a couple more things that leave to be discussed after the changes were made. Otherwise I don’t think we’d all be sitting around here with things to say.

The people here have been helpful even to me, offering me advice on how to deal with my mudlife right now and what is acceptable and what isn’t.

It’s just a game. Don’t assume just because we pthieves pthief, we have some insecurity and inferiority complexes. I personally pthieved because it was fun, and it provided me entertainment when I started getting bored of playing the MUD as a normal player.

Sure, what else is there to do if we don’t ’live with it’? Do you see us asking for pthieving back, as the rest of you asked for pthieving to be removed when it was still around? Do you see us threatening to leave the MUD when we were unsatisfied? I don’t think so.

So with all due respect, please keep your ‘peace’ promoting, “end this thread please” speech to yourself because the non-pthieves are not being “poor winners”, nor are the pthieves being “whiners”. We’re all “dealing with it”.

Thank you.

Was it …… Mulva :?:

Poolp is having a mud-life crisis.

:twisted:

“Yasik wrote: I’m not grouping with strangers, especially newly-created or low-levels until them prove to be alts of those i know personally.
Every classo that has access to Steal skill less than 4x40 counted to me as pthief, unless i know them personally.[/quote:2agu6esb]
hey yASSix: i play requiem, a lev 20 bard prime. are you going to pk him just because he has the bard class? although i have never been nor will ever be a pth are you condeming him to web/blind/kill just for his classo? if so, watch your back. i will treat all of YOUR chars as pths as well. remember, what comes around, goes around.

Your words fly out faster than you think and read. I didnt say im goin to PK someone. Its my own business how to theat friends/unfamiliar_ppl/pthieves so put your threats away or i’ll be very scared and will crying run away huhuhuh. I know your chars and avoid you coz you are dangerous enuf even while not performing any actions (blind/web/etc) simply by tanking in regen-mode.

My two cents:

Like Alias said, You can group w/ me poolp…..I’ve cursed the day you were born before, but what I want see on this mud is an open, friendly player base, so I gotta do my part and put the past in the past. If it means that I’m pissing off yet another uber lev. 40 tard who’s been here for like 10 years etc. by letting you group w/ me, then they can refuse to let me group w/ them, I’m fine w/ that.

tipping my hat to the imms for making this change

Resouh

P.S. will be back on and playing more once I get used to my new college schedule.

Glad to hear your commin back Resouh…..

In referance to Poolp…… Give my decanter back and I will gladly let you in my groups when or if I happen to lead :twisted: . It would suck to solo your entire way to 5x40, but I figure I will give you the chance to earn my semi-respect and allow you in my groups.

Well, I was one of the first people to jump right on and start harassing pulp as he think he’s earned it and I don’t really believe he wants to play. I think he’s just gonna start pumping out level 8 thieves for a while.

But Akasha asked me nicely to let him play unharassed. With as much respect as I have for Akasha and what he’s contributed to the game I surely can’t refuse his request.

But I’m guessing that in the end, Poolp is just gonna make Akasha regret standing up for him.

Knock on wood.

I had to stand up for Al in the same way with Elwood. In the end I’m glad I did.

:( :cry:

Is it fair to buy pthieved eq now? :twisted:

I got quite a chuckle. Yasik rarely has much to say and when he does it usually cuts right to the chase.

Mike

Don’t need it. You don’t lead much anyway, and even if for some reason you do, I can get in without you knowing it’s me.

BTW most people smart enough to buy their items back when I offered them. But some people just had too much pride and kept bragging about how he kills pthieves so much so that he forgot he could be a victim of one too. thumbs up I’m glad it happened right before pthieving was removed.

But I’m guessing that in the end, Poolp is just gonna make Akasha regret standing up for him. [/quote:us0k2zdq]

Akasha told me he hates pthieves but that’s his job and that’s pretty much what he’s supposed to do. It wasn’t his choice for him to regret later on.

Let’s not get all high and mighty and state that the only reason you stopped harrassing me was because you respect him. You know deep down if you did continue harrassing me, an immort would have done something to your character and that’s the true reason you stopped doing it. Why not tell the truth?

Is it fair to buy pthieved eq now?[/quote:us0k2zdq]

When has it not been fair?

Sounds fair enough looks like I can lead more often and just keep em locked groups to who I know then :twisted: . Doesn’t hurt my feelings that I was pthieved against and it isnt like decanters are worth a fortune anyways. Honestly it was just a chance for you to gain my respect again, you shot it down your choice, probably a decision on your part for the good or bad thats up to you to decide. :roll:

PS- Don’t look for my groups to be open to all the newbies it used to anymore fellas :oops:

“Yasik wrote: Your words fly out faster than you think and read. I didnt say im goin to PK someone. Its my own business how to theat friends/unfamiliar_ppl/pthieves so put your threats away or i’ll be very scared and will crying run away huhuhuh. I know your chars and avoid you coz you are dangerous enuf even while not performing any actions (blind/web/etc) simply by tanking in regen-mode.

even in regen mode i outtank you and STILL save your scrawny ass.

“where can i get eyes like that?” –jack –>pitch black

I think Yinao needs a nap :x

I can see what this thread needs already….

[code:2kiha68y]

Yinao___

vs……|________

Poolp___|

……………..|________

Firebrand

vs……|________|

Yasik___|

[/code:2kiha68y]

Anyone else want a slot?

Sorry 12345, can’t fill my slot considering the round 1 is a win and assuming round 2 is against Reb I dont see any odds in winning. :twisted:

PS- I’ve had my nap and I am back in business :wink:

[quote:2hrygf5n]

Akasha told me he hates pthieves but that’s his job and that’s pretty much what he’s supposed to do. It wasn’t his choice for him to regret later on.

You know deep down if you did continue harrassing me, an immort would have done something to your character and that’s the true reason you stopped doing it. Why not tell the truth?

[/quote:2hrygf5n]

This is where you and I have a totally different perspective on the mud. I think theres an actual sense of community here and that mutual respect and admiration not only exist, but are in fact at the very core of the game.

You and I both know that it’s a moot argument, because you are free to play with us anonymously. Despite that, you persist in trying to garner attention by aggravating people. “Ha ha you can’t kill me anymore and I’m gonna flaunt it in your face.” You pthieved for exactly the same reason.

I think Akasha is standing up for not because “it’s his job”, but because he thinks you have the potential to be a positive asset to the game. But hey, everyone is free to make mistakes once in a while.

Can I kill Firebrand then? I’ll babble incoherently and pretend I’m Yinao ;) PLEASE?

giggle sure brady you can kill me……let’s chop!!!

“ignore the bird. follow the river” –high aldwin –>willow

3 drachma on FB

any takers?

I’ll give you 5:1 odds.

It is precisely why I still feel the need to reply, that you still assume that I pthief to piss people off. I have mentioned quite a number of times I pthief because I already have a main and I throw all my coins to that main from sold items. It’s A LOT faster than cycling for coins the normal way and certainly more interesting. Some of the other players here know I have done CRs, I have recalled dead people and have helped a number of people even with my pthief chars. Would a guy who wanted to piss people off do all that?

Akasha told me the other day in these exact words, “I hate pthieves”. He knows which chars I play and have played for the past 9-10 years and he has no reason to want to help me just to keep me in the game because he “thinks I have the potential to be a possitive asset to the game”.

The reason I’ve written and am still writing here is to find out how the people react if I were to play this game. The thing you don’t know (which you will now know) is that I do have a main and I have been playing for quite a long time. I was thinking of revealing it but hell, if you guys can give me so much negative attitude then I’m not going to say anything.

I’m not surprised that the MUD hates me, I just want to know what the players’ policies are on helping me out or letting me in groups. Why would I jeapordize that by revealing myself now when most of you clearly still won’t accept me as part of the community?

And Yinao, I don’t know what your problem is with me. Clearly you hate pthieves but jeez, doing nothing but losing your item and claiming YOU WIN AND I LOSE is a great insight to showing how immature you really are. Sure, about a 90% of the MUD is gonna come telling me how immature I am for saying what I just said and doing what I do, but look into yourself Yinao and know that part of what I’m saying is true.

“Sorry 12345, can’t fill my slot considering the round 1 is a win”

What exactly have you won?

If I am immature I would hate to have to see what you think of yourself, anyways man, you obviously have your own issues good luck hope you get through it all. Refering to the bracket it was a joke and it had nothing to do with the pthieving it was about arguements if I am not mistaken but do as you wish but deal with your own issues then come talk to me. 8)

you’re all a pack of nancies

100 drach on Brady. sorry Reb but hes dangerous.

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Yasik___

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Rub_____|

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Yinao___

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Poolp___|

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Firebrand

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Brady___|

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Brady is Offering 5:1 on Firebrand to win.

–Banedon is down for 3 drachma.

100 drach on Brady. sorry Reb but hes dangerous.[/quote:3idxessc]

agreed. if they’re pitting me against brady, i’m takin my toys and goin home. brady IS dangerous.

“i knew you’d say that” –judge dredd –>judge dredd

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Yasik___

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Rub_____|

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Yinao___

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Poolp___|

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Firebrand

vs……|________Brady|

Brady___|

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agreed. if they’re pitting me against brady, i’m takin my toys and goin home. brady IS dangerous. [/quote:3g32sbs7]

Well hell, i had faith in rebs, but i’ll gladly defer to the lady’s judgement.

brady’s gay, put me up in reb’s spot

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Yasik___

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Rub_____|

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Yinao___

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Poolp___|

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Firebrand

vs……|_Brady

Brady___|

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ahhh hell……put me back vs yasik like it was originally and i’ll put up a good fight. i need brady for blastin mobs and raisin my dead ass.

“i don’t like you because you’re going to get me killed!” –zeus –> die hard with a vengeance

post your pics here :twisted:

[quote:167b3vvk]brady’s gay, put me up in reb’s spot[/quote:167b3vvk]

Go suck yer thumb turban, ya guzzler.

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I like this change.