OAKENSHIELD
I can trade:
Cost Item
+0 Holy Staff of the Elders
+0 Tower Shield of the Great Lords
+0 Axe of Dwarvish Lords
+0 dragon-skin laces
+0 a polished spectrolite charm
+0 Sable Ring of the Dark Lords
+0 The Crown of Thorns
+0 Runed Tooth of the Arch-Liches
+0 Tooled Girdle of Ogre Kings
+0 Arcane Tome of Power
+0 Mithril Sleeves of the High Paladin
+0 Battle-Spiked Arm Bands of the Night Prince
+0 Adamantine Cuirass of the Ancients
+0 Diamond Studded Mithril Shield
+0 Shroud of the Exalted Priest
+0 Sandals of the Merman High Priest
+0 Elven Chain Leggings of the Mystic Guard
+0 Boots of the Elemental Earth Wizard
+0 Aubergine Kasaya of the Dedicated
+0 Shifting Cowl of the Fading Light
+0 Ancient Cincture of Vigor
+0 Rogue’s Dagger
+0 Heavy Chainmail of the Knights Order
+0 Legplates of Dancing Melodies
+0 Bark of the Great Red Oak
+0 a maple-leaf brooch
+0 Vestment of Interlocking Bones
+0 Diamond Sleeves of Desecration
- means you need more levels to use it.
! means you are not strong enough to use it.
& means you have studied this spellbook or manual to its max.
- Means that a list of cps can be viewed.
Query may also be of use to you, please refer to help query.
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, Holy Staff of the Elders…Here is a little bit of information
for you:’
Object ‘holy staff elders gen trip40’, Item type: WEAPON
Item is: GLOW PERSONAL MAGIC 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE WIELD
Damage Dice is ‘3D6’
Can affect you as:
Affects: MANA by 20
Affects: REGEN_MANA by 3
Affects: MAX_WIS by 1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, Tower Shield of the Great Lords…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘shield tower lords trip40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: HUM PERSONAL MAGIC 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 5, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE SHIELD
AC-apply is -1.2
Can affect you as:
Affects: MAX_CON by 1
Affects: DEX by 1
Affects: MAX_INT by 1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, Axe of Dwarvish Lords…Here is a little bit of information for
you:’
Object ‘axe dwarvish lords wa trip40’, Item type: WEAPON
Item is: PERSONAL MAGIC 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE WIELD
Damage Dice is ‘5D6’
Can affect you as:
Affects: HITROLL by 5
Affects: DEX by 1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, dragon-skin laces…Here is a little bit of information for you:’
Object ‘dragon skin laces clasp trip40’, Item type: CLASP
Item is: PERSONAL 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 0, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE
Clasp can only be attached to:
all movable items
necklaces, amulets, and gorgets
Clasp imbues item with: HUM
Clasp gives the user +20 REGEN_HP
Clasp gives the user +2 DEX
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, a polished spectrolite charm…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘charm polished spectrolite trip40’, Item type: CLASP
Item is: PERSONAL 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 1, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE
Clasp can only be attached to:
greaves and leggings
Clasp imbues item with: GLOW MAGIC
Clasp gives the user +10 REGEN_HP
Clasp gives the user +40 HITPOINT
Clasp gives the user -1 ARMOR
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, Sable Ring of the Dark Lords…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘ring dark lords sable trip40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: PERSONAL 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 1, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE FINGER
AC-apply is -0.4
Can affect you as:
Affects: MANA by 35
Affects: REGEN_MANA by 2
Affects: REGEN_HP by 2
Affects: MAX_INT by 1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, The Crown of Thorns…Here is a little bit of information for
you:’
Object ‘crown thorns trip40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: HUM PERSONAL MAGIC 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE HEAD
AC-apply is -1.2
Can affect you as:
Affects: STR by 1
Affects: REGEN_MANA by 3
Affects: MAX_STR by 1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, Runed Tooth of the Arch-Liches…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ’tooth runed arch lich gen trip40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: HUM PERSONAL MAGIC INVENTORY 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 1, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE HOLD
AC-apply is -0.3
Can affect you as:
Affects: MANA by 50
Affects: CON by 1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, Tooled Girdle of Ogre Kings…Here is a little bit of information
for you:’
Object ‘belt girdle tooled ogre king trip40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: PERSONAL 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 13, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE WAIST
AC-apply is -0.6
Can affect you as:
Affects: MAX_WIS by 1
Affects: HITROLL by 2
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, Arcane Tome of Power…Here is a little bit of information for
you:’
Object ’tome arcane power th trip40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: HUM PERSONAL MAGIC 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE HOLD
AC-apply is -0.4
Can affect you as:
Affects: REGEN_MOVE by 10
Affects: DAMROLL by 1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, Mithril Sleeves of the High Paladin…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘sleeves mithril paladin trip40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: GLOW PERSONAL 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE ARMS
AC-apply is -0.9
Can affect you as:
Affects: MANA by 20
Affects: REGEN_HP by 12
Affects: MAX_INT by 1
Only those who are at least supreme magic users, clerics, thieves, warriors
, druids, necromancers, bards, or monks, and have attained supremacy in at
least three classes may use this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, Battle-Spiked Arm Bands of the Night Prince…Here is a little
bit of information for you:’
Object ‘bands arm night prince battle spiked trip40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: PERSONAL MAGIC 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE ARMS
AC-apply is -0.8
Can affect you as:
Affects: DAMROLL by 1
Affects: CON by 1
Affects: MAX_CON by 1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, Adamantine Cuirass of the Ancients…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘cuirass adamantine ancients trip40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: PERSONAL MAGIC 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE BODY
AC-apply is -2.6
Can affect you as:
Affects: HITPOINT by 40
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, Diamond Studded Mithril Shield…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘diamond studded mithril shield trip40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: HUM PERSONAL MAGIC 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 5, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE SHIELD
AC-apply is -0.8
Can affect you as:
Affects: MAX_DEX by 1
Affects: MAX_CON by 1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, Shroud of the Exalted Priest…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘shroud exalted priest cl trip40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: GLOW PERSONAL 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE BODY
AC-apply is -2.4
Can affect you as:
Affects: REGEN_MANA by 2
Affects: MANA by 20
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, Sandals of the Merman High Priest…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘sandals water merman priest trip40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: GLOW PERSONAL MAGIC CAN-SHAPESHIFT 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 0, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE FEET
AC-apply is -0.2
Can affect you as:
Affects: MANA by 20
Affects: HEAL_BONUS by 15
Affects: WATER_BREATHING by 1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, Elven Chain Leggings of the Mystic Guard…Here is a little bit
of information for you:’
Object ’elven chain leggings guard mystic trip40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: GLOW PERSONAL MAGIC 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 12, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE LEGS
AC-apply is -1.7
Can affect you as:
Affects: SPELL_BONUS by 10
Affects: HEAL_BONUS by 10
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, Boots of the Elemental Earth Wizard…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘boots elemental earth wizard trip40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: PERSONAL MAGIC CAN-SHAPESHIFT 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 0, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE FEET
AC-apply is -0.2
Can affect you as:
Affects: MANA by 20
Affects: SPELL_BONUS by 15
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, Aubergine Kasaya of the Dedicated…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘aubergine kasaya dedicated trip40’, Item type: CONTAINER
Maxweight: 500
Item is: HUM PERSONAL
Weight: 2, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE BODY
Can affect you as:
Affects: ARMOR by -21
Affects: HAND_DAMAGE by 1
Affects: MAX_STR by 1
Affects: REDUCE_DAMAGE by 1
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, Shifting Cowl of the Fading Light…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘shifting cowl fading light trip40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: HUM PERSONAL MAGIC 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 3, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE HEAD
AC-apply is -1.2
Can affect you as:
Affects: MAX_STR by 1
Affects: REDUCE_DAMAGE by 1
Affects: HITPOINT by 10
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, Ancient Cincture of Vigor…Here is a little bit of information
for you:’
Object ‘cincture vigor ancient trip40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: PERSONAL MAGIC 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE WAIST
AC-apply is -0.4
Can affect you as:
Affects: STR by 1
Affects: MAX_STR by 1
Affects: MANA by 40
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, Rogue’s Dagger…Here is a little bit of information for you:’
Object ‘dagger rogue assassin th trip40’, Item type: WEAPON
Item is: PERSONAL 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE WIELD
Damage Dice is ‘3D4’
Can affect you as:
Affects: MAX_STR by 1
Affects: DAMROLL by 3
Affects: HITROLL by 2
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, Heavy Chainmail of the Knights Order…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘heavy chainmail knights order trip40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: GLOW PERSONAL 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE BODY
AC-apply is -2.4
Can affect you as:
Affects: CHARISMA by 1
Affects: HITPOINT by 20
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, Legplates of Dancing Melodies…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ’legplates leg plates dancing melodies trip40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: GLOW PERSONAL MAGIC 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 12, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE LEGS
AC-apply is -1.4
Can affect you as:
Affects: SAVING_SPELL by -2
Affects: SPELL_BONUS by 5
Affects: CHARISMA by 1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, Bark of the Great Red Oak…Here is a little bit of information
for you:’
Object ‘bark great red oak trip40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: PERSONAL MAGIC CAN-SHAPESHIFT 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 1, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE ARMS
AC-apply is -0.1
Can affect you as:
Affects: REGEN_MANA by 1
Affects: HAND_DAMAGE by 1
Affects: SPELL_BONUS by 5
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, a maple-leaf brooch…Here is a little bit of information for
you:’
Object ‘brooch maple leaf trip40’, Item type: CLASP
Item is: PERSONAL 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 0, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE
Clasp can only be attached to:
cloaks and mantles
Clasp imbues item with: CAN-SHAPESHIFT
Clasp gives the user +1 REGEN_MANA
Clasp gives the user +20 MANA
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, Vestment of Interlocking Bones…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘vestment interlocking bones trip40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: GLOW PERSONAL 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE BODY
AC-apply is -2.1
Can affect you as:
Affects: MANA by 15
Affects: UNDEAD_CONTROL by 1
Affects: REGEN_MANA by 1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Master Oakenshield tells you ‘Ahh yes, Diamond Sleeves of Desecration…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘diamond sleeves desecration trip40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: PERSONAL MAGIC 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE ARMS
AC-apply is -0.6
Can affect you as:
Affects: UNDEAD_CONTROL by 1
Affects: MANA by 15
Affects: HITPOINT by 15
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (3)
ALEXUS
I can forge:
Cost Item
+0 Holy Staff of the Ancients
+0 Tower Shield of the Sovereign Lords
+0 Axe of Dwarvish Kings
+0 demon-skin laces
+0 a radiant spectrolite charm
+0 Sable Ring of the Dark Gods
+0 The Crown of Destiny
+0 Runed Tooth of the Sapphire Dragon
+0 Enchanted Girdle of Ogre Kings
+0 Arcane Tome of Sovereign Might
+0 Mithril Sleeves of the Master Paladin
+0 Battle-Spiked Arm Bands of the Night King
+0 Mithril Cuirass of the Ancients
*0 Ancient Cuirass of the War Gods
+0 Mithril Shield of the Elder Titan
+0 Mithril Shield of Molten Earth
+0 Radiant Shroud of the High Priest
*0 Brilliant Shroud of the Master Priest
+0 Lost Sandals of Atlantis
*0 Sandals of the Melchizedek Priesthood
+0 Elven Chain Leggings of the Mystic Enchanter
*0 Ancient Elven Leggings of the Master Enchanter
+0 Arcane Boots of the Elemental Magi
*0 Arcane Boots of the Elemental Master
+0 Shadow Kasaya of the Ordained
*0 Midnight Kasaya of the Enlightened
+0 Shifting Cowl of the Moonlit Night
*0 Shifting Cowl of the Darkest Night
+0 Ancient Cincture of Power
*0 Ancient Cincture of Destruction
+0 The Dagger of the Silent Assassin
*0 The Serpentine Blades of Silent Death
+0 Reinforced Platemail of the Knights Order
*0 Ancient Dragonmail of the Knights Order
+0 Legplates of a Thousand Echoes
*0 Midnight Greaves of Hypnotic Resonance
+0 Hardened Bark of the Elder Iron Oak
*0 Petrified Bark of the Tree of Life
+0 an oak-leaf brooch
*0 a golden trefoil brooch of the gods
+0 Vestment of the Unholy Rite
*0 Infernal Vestment of the Fallen Angel
+0 Crystal Sleeves of Desecration
*0 Midnight Onyx Sleeves of Desecrated Souls
+5000000 a precious ingot of palladium
- means you need more levels to use it.
! means you are not strong enough to use it.
& means you have studied this spellbook or manual to its max.
- Means that a list of cps can be viewed.
Query may also be of use to you, please refer to help query.
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Holy Staff of the Ancients…Here is a little bit of information
for you:’
Object ‘holy staff ancients sext40’, Item type: WEAPON
Item is: GLOW PERSONAL MAGIC
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE WIELD
Damage Dice is ‘4D6’
Can affect you as:
Affects: MAX_INT by 1
Affects: MAX_WIS by 1
Affects: MANA by 10
Affects: REGEN_MANA by 4
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Holy Staff of the Elders (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Tower Shield of the Sovereign Lords…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘shield tower sovereign lords sext40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: HUM PERSONAL MAGIC
Weight: 5, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE SHIELD
AC-apply is -1.3
Can affect you as:
Affects: MAX_CON by 1
Affects: DEX by 1
Affects: MAX_INT by 1
Affects: HAND_DAMAGE by 1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Tower Shield of the Great Lords (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Axe of Dwarvish Kings…Here is a little bit of information for
you:’
Object ‘axe dwarvish kings sext40’, Item type: WEAPON
Item is: PERSONAL MAGIC
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE WIELD
Damage Dice is ‘6D6’
Can affect you as:
Affects: DEX by 1
Affects: HITROLL by 6
Affects: BONUS_WEAPONDAM by 5
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Axe of Dwarvish Lords (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, demon-skin laces…Here is a little bit of information for you:’
Object ‘demon skin laces clasp sext40’, Item type: CLASP
Item is: PERSONAL
Weight: 0, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE
Clasp can only be attached to:
all movable items
necklaces, amulets, and gorgets
Clasp imbues item with: HUM
Clasp gives the user +4 ARMOR
Clasp gives the user +1 MAX_DEX
Clasp gives the user +1 DEX
Clasp gives the user +1 MAX_CON
Clasp gives the user +10 REGEN_HP
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x dragon-skin laces (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, a radiant spectrolite charm…Here is a little bit of information
for you:’
Object ‘radiant spectrolite charm sext40’, Item type: CLASP
Item is: PERSONAL
Weight: 1, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE
Clasp can only be attached to:
greaves and leggings
Clasp imbues item with: GLOW MAGIC
Clasp gives the user +1 MAX_CON
Clasp gives the user +20 HITPOINT
Clasp gives the user -2 ARMOR
Clasp gives the user +1 MAX_WIS
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a polished spectrolite charm (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Sable Ring of the Dark Gods…Here is a little bit of information
for you:’
Object ‘sable ring dark gods sext40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: PERSONAL
Weight: 1, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE FINGER
AC-apply is -0.4
Can affect you as:
Affects: MANA by 45
Affects: REGEN_MANA by 3
Affects: MAX_INT by 1
Affects: MAX_CON by 1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Sable Ring of the Dark Lords (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, The Crown of Destiny…Here is a little bit of information for
you:’
Object ‘crown destiny sext40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: HUM PERSONAL MAGIC 3x40-ITEM
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE HEAD
AC-apply is -1.2
Can affect you as:
Affects: STR by 1
Affects: REGEN_MANA by 5
Affects: MAX_STR by 1
Affects: HITROLL by 2
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least three classes may use
this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x The Crown of Thorns (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Runed Tooth of the Sapphire Dragon…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘runed tooth sapphire dragon sext40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: HUM PERSONAL MAGIC
Weight: 1, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE HOLD
AC-apply is -0.4
Can affect you as:
Affects: MANA by 40
Affects: MAX_INT by 1
Affects: MAX_CON by 1
Affects: HEAL_BONUS by 10
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Runed Tooth of the Arch-Liches (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Enchanted Girdle of Ogre Kings…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ’enchanted girdle ogre kings sext40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: PERSONAL
Weight: 13, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE WAIST
AC-apply is -0.6
Can affect you as:
Affects: MAX_WIS by 1
Affects: HITROLL by 3
Affects: MAX_CON by 1
Affects: MAX_STR by 1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Tooled Girdle of Ogre Kings (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Arcane Tome of Sovereign Might…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘arcane tome sovereign might sext40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: HUM PERSONAL MAGIC
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE HOLD
AC-apply is -0.5
Can affect you as:
Affects: DAMROLL by 1
Affects: MAX_STR by 1
Affects: REGEN_MOVE by 10
Affects: STAB_DAMAGE by 10
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Arcane Tome of Power (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Mithril Sleeves of the Master Paladin…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘mithril sleeves master paladin sext40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: GLOW PERSONAL
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE ARMS
AC-apply is -0.9
Can affect you as:
Affects: MANA by 30
Affects: REGEN_HP by 12
Affects: MAX_INT by 1
Affects: MAX_CON by 1
Affects: REGEN_MANA by 2
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Mithril Sleeves of the High Paladin (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Battle-Spiked Arm Bands of the Night King…Here is a little bit
of information for you:’
Object ‘bands arm night king battle spiked sext40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: PERSONAL MAGIC
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE ARMS
AC-apply is -0.3
Can affect you as:
Affects: DAMROLL by 1
Affects: MAX_DEX by 1
Affects: MAX_CON by 1
Affects: HITROLL by 2
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Battle-Spiked Arm Bands of the Night Prince (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Mithril Cuirass of the Ancients…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘cuirass mithril ancients sext40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: PERSONAL MAGIC
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE BODY
AC-apply is -2.6
Can affect you as:
Affects: HITPOINT by 40
Affects: REDUCE_DAMAGE by 1
Affects: WEAPON_DAMAGE by 1
Affects: HITROLL by 1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Adamantine Cuirass of the Ancients (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Ancient Cuirass of the War Gods…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘cuirass ancient war gods oct40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: PERSONAL MAGIC
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE BODY
AC-apply is -2.7
Can affect you as:
Affects: MAX_CON by 1
Affects: HITPOINT by 15
Affects: REDUCE_DAMAGE by 2
Affects: WEAPON_DAMAGE by 5
Affects: HITROLL by 2
Only those who are primary supreme monks, and have attained supremacy in
all eight classesmay use this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Mithril Cuirass of the Ancients (0),
2x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (3)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Mithril Shield of the Elder Titan…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘mithril shield elder titan sext40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: HUM PERSONAL MAGIC
Weight: 5, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE SHIELD
AC-apply is -0.8
Can affect you as:
Affects: MAX_DEX by 1
Affects: MAX_CON by 1
Affects: REDUCE_DAMAGE by 1
Affects: WEAPON_DAMAGE by 1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Diamond Studded Mithril Shield (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Mithril Shield of Molten Earth…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘mithril shield molten earth oct40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: HUM PERSONAL MAGIC
Weight: 5, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE SHIELD
AC-apply is -0.9
Can affect you as:
Affects: MAX_DEX by 1
Affects: MAX_CON by 2
Affects: REDUCE_DAMAGE by 2
Affects: WEAPON_DAMAGE by 4
Only those who are primary supreme warriors, and have attained supremacy in
all eight classesmay use this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Mithril Shield of the Elder Titan (0),
2x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Radiant Shroud of the High Priest…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘radiant shroud high priest sext40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: GLOW PERSONAL
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE BODY
AC-apply is -2.4
Can affect you as:
Affects: REGEN_MANA by 2
Affects: MANA by 20
Affects: BONUS_HEAL_BONUS by 10
Affects: SAVING_SPELL by -1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Shroud of the Exalted Priest (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Lost Sandals of Atlantis…Here is a little bit of information
for you:’
Object ’lost sandals atlantis sext40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: GLOW PERSONAL MAGIC CAN-SHAPESHIFT
Weight: 0, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE FEET
AC-apply is -0.2
Can affect you as:
Affects: MANA by 20
Affects: HEAL_BONUS by 20
Affects: REGEN_MANA by 2
Affects: SAVING_SPELL by -1
Affects: WATER_BREATHING by 1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Sandals of the Merman High Priest (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Sandals of the Melchizedek Priesthood…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘sandals melchizedek priesthood oct40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: GLOW PERSONAL MAGIC CAN-SHAPESHIFT
Weight: 0, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE FEET
AC-apply is -0.2
Can affect you as:
Affects: MAX_INT by 1
Affects: HEAL_BONUS by 25
Affects: REGEN_MANA by 5
Affects: SAVING_SPELL by -2
Affects: WATER_BREATHING by 1
Only those who are primary supreme clerics, and have attained supremacy in
all eight classesmay use this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Lost Sandals of Atlantis (0),
2x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Elven Chain Leggings of the Mystic Enchanter…Here is a little
bit of information for you:’
Object ’elven chain leggings mystic enchanter sext40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: GLOW PERSONAL MAGIC
Weight: 12, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE LEGS
AC-apply is -1.7
Can affect you as:
Affects: SPELL_BONUS by 15
Affects: HEAL_BONUS by 10
Affects: SAVING_SPELL by -1
Affects: MANA by 15
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Elven Chain Leggings of the Mystic Guard (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Ancient Elven Leggings of the Master Enchanter…Here is a little
bit of information for you:’
Object ‘ancient elven leggings master enchanter oct40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: GLOW PERSONAL MAGIC
Weight: 12, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE LEGS
AC-apply is -1.7
Can affect you as:
Affects: BONUS_SPELL_BONUS by 20
Affects: HEAL_BONUS by 10
Affects: SAVING_SPELL by -2
Affects: MAX_INT by 1
Only those who are primary supreme magic users, and have attained supremacy
in all eight classesmay use this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Elven Chain Leggings of the Mystic Enchanter (0),
2x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Arcane Boots of the Elemental Magi…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘arcane boots elemental magi sext40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: PERSONAL MAGIC CAN-SHAPESHIFT
Weight: 0, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE FEET
AC-apply is -0.2
Can affect you as:
Affects: MANA by 20
Affects: SPELL_BONUS by 20
Affects: SAVING_SPELL by -1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Boots of the Elemental Earth Wizard (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Arcane Boots of the Elemental Master…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘arcane boots elemental master oct40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: PERSONAL MAGIC CAN-SHAPESHIFT
Weight: 0, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE FEET
AC-apply is -0.2
Can affect you as:
Affects: MAX_INT by 1
Affects: SPELL_BONUS by 25
Affects: SAVING_SPELL by -2
Affects: REGEN_MANA by 1
Affects: MANA by 10
Only those who are primary supreme magic users, and have attained supremacy
in all eight classesmay use this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Arcane Boots of the Elemental Magi (0),
2x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Shadow Kasaya of the Ordained…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘shadow kasaya ordained sext40’, Item type: CONTAINER
Maxweight: 500
Item is: HUM PERSONAL
Weight: 2, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE BODY
Can affect you as:
Affects: ARMOR by -21
Affects: HAND_DAMAGE by 2
Affects: MAX_STR by 1
Affects: REDUCE_DAMAGE by 1
Affects: STALK by 1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Aubergine Kasaya of the Dedicated (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Midnight Kasaya of the Enlightened…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘midnight kasaya enlightened oct40’, Item type: CONTAINER
Maxweight: 500
Item is: HUM PERSONAL
Weight: 2, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE BODY
Can affect you as:
Affects: ARMOR by -22
Affects: HAND_DAMAGE by 3
Affects: REDUCE_DAMAGE by 2
Affects: MAX_CON by 1
Affects: STALK by 1
Only those who are primary supreme monks, and have attained supremacy in
all eight classesmay use this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Shadow Kasaya of the Ordained (0),
2x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Shifting Cowl of the Moonlit Night…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘shifting cowl moonlit night sext40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: HUM PERSONAL MAGIC
Weight: 3, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE HEAD
AC-apply is -1.2
Can affect you as:
Affects: MAX_STR by 1
Affects: REDUCE_DAMAGE by 2
Affects: HITPOINT by 15
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Shifting Cowl of the Fading Light (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Shifting Cowl of the Darkest Night…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘shifting cowl darkest night oct40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: HUM PERSONAL MAGIC
Weight: 3, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE HEAD
AC-apply is -1.2
Can affect you as:
Affects: HAND_DAMAGE by 1
Affects: REDUCE_DAMAGE by 2
Affects: MAX_CON by 1
Only those who are primary supreme monks, and have attained supremacy in
all eight classesmay use this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Shifting Cowl of the Moonlit Night (0),
2x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Ancient Cincture of Power…Here is a little bit of information
for you:’
Object ‘ancient cincture power sext40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: PERSONAL MAGIC
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE WAIST
AC-apply is -0.4
Can affect you as:
Affects: STR by 1
Affects: MAX_STR by 1
Affects: MAX_INT by 1
Affects: HITROLL by 2
Affects: MANA by 25
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Ancient Cincture of Vigor (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Ancient Cincture of Destruction…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘ancient cincture destruction oct40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: PERSONAL MAGIC
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE WAIST
AC-apply is -0.0
Can affect you as:
Affects: DAMROLL by 1
Affects: HITROLL by 2
Affects: MAX_DEX by 1
Affects: MAX_INT by 1
Affects: MANA by 25
Only those who are primary supreme thieves, and have attained supremacy in
all eight classesmay use this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Ancient Cincture of Power (0),
2x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, The Dagger of the Silent Assassin…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘dagger silent assassin sext40’, Item type: WEAPON
Item is: PERSONAL
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE WIELD
Damage Dice is ‘3D6’
Can affect you as:
Affects: MAX_STR by 1
Affects: HITROLL by 4
Affects: DAMROLL by 1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Rogue’s Dagger (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, The Serpentine Blades of Silent Death…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘serpentine blades silent death oct40’, Item type: WEAPON
Item is: PERSONAL
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE WIELD
Damage Dice is ‘3D7’
Can affect you as:
Affects: MAX_STR by 1
Affects: HITROLL by 5
Affects: DAMROLL by 1
Affects: BONUS_STAB_DAM by 5
Only those who are primary supreme thieves, and have attained supremacy in
all eight classesmay use this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x The Dagger of the Silent Assassin (0),
2x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Reinforced Platemail of the Knights Order…Here is a little bit
of information for you:’
Object ‘reinforced platemail knights order sext40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: GLOW PERSONAL
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE BODY
AC-apply is -2.4
Can affect you as:
Affects: CHARISMA by 2
Affects: HITPOINT by 30
Affects: REDUCE_DAMAGE by 1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Heavy Chainmail of the Knights Order (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Ancient Dragonmail of the Knights Order…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘ancient dragonmail knights order oct40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: GLOW PERSONAL
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE BODY
AC-apply is -2.5
Can affect you as:
Affects: BONUS_CHARISMA by 2
Affects: MAX_CON by 1
Affects: REDUCE_DAMAGE by 2
Affects: KNIGHTS_BLESSING by 1
Only those who are primary supreme bards, and have attained supremacy in
all eight classesmay use this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Reinforced Platemail of the Knights Order (0),
2x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Legplates of a Thousand Echoes…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ’legplates leg plates thousand echoes sext40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: GLOW PERSONAL MAGIC
Weight: 12, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE LEGS
AC-apply is -1.5
Can affect you as:
Affects: SAVING_SPELL by -2
Affects: SPELL_BONUS by 5
Affects: CHARISMA by 1
Affects: SAVING_PARA by -1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Legplates of Dancing Melodies (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Midnight Greaves of Hypnotic Resonance…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘midnight greaves hypnotic resonance oct40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: GLOW PERSONAL MAGIC
Weight: 12, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE LEGS
AC-apply is -1.6
Can affect you as:
Affects: SAVING_SPELL by -2
Affects: SPELL_BONUS by 10
Affects: CHARISMA by 2
Affects: SAVING_PARA by -2
Only those who are primary supreme bards, and have attained supremacy in
all eight classesmay use this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Legplates of a Thousand Echoes (0),
2x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Hardened Bark of the Elder Iron Oak…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘hardened bark elder iron oak sext40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: PERSONAL MAGIC CAN-SHAPESHIFT
Weight: 1, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE ARMS
AC-apply is -0.2
Can affect you as:
Affects: REGEN_MANA by 2
Affects: HAND_DAMAGE by 1
Affects: SPELL_BONUS by 10
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Bark of the Great Red Oak (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Petrified Bark of the Tree of Life…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘petrified bark tree life oct40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: PERSONAL MAGIC CAN-SHAPESHIFT
Weight: 1, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE ARMS
AC-apply is -0.3
Can affect you as:
Affects: REGEN_MANA by 4
Affects: HAND_DAMAGE by 2
Affects: SPELL_BONUS by 20
Only those who are primary supreme druids, and have attained supremacy in
all eight classesmay use this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Hardened Bark of the Elder Iron Oak (0),
2x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, an oak-leaf brooch…Here is a little bit of information for
you:’
Object ‘oak leaf brooch sext40’, Item type: CLASP
Item is: PERSONAL
Weight: 0, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE
Clasp can only be attached to:
cloaks and mantles
Clasp imbues item with: CAN-SHAPESHIFT
Clasp gives the user +3 REGEN_MANA
Clasp gives the user +10 SPELL_BONUS
Clasp gives the user +25 MANA
Clasp gives the user -1 ARMOR
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x a maple-leaf brooch (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, a golden trefoil brooch of the gods…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘golden trefoil brooch gods oct40’, Item type: CLASP
Item is: PERSONAL
Weight: 0, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE
Clasp can only be attached to:
cloaks and mantles
Clasp imbues item with: CAN-SHAPESHIFT
Clasp gives the user +5 REGEN_MANA
Clasp gives the user +20 SPELL_BONUS
Clasp gives the user -2 ARMOR
Clasp gives the user +1 HAND_DAMAGE
Clasp gives the user +30 MANA
Only those who are primary supreme druids, and have attained supremacy in
all eight classesmay use this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x an oak-leaf brooch (0),
2x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Vestment of the Unholy Rite…Here is a little bit of information
for you:’
Object ‘vestment unholy rite sext40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: GLOW PERSONAL
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE BODY
AC-apply is -2.1
Can affect you as:
Affects: MAX_INT by 1
Affects: UNDEAD_CONTROL by 2
Affects: REGEN_MANA by 1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Vestment of Interlocking Bones (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Infernal Vestment of the Fallen Angel…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘infernal vestment fallen angel oct40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: GLOW PERSONAL
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE BODY
AC-apply is -2.2
Can affect you as:
Affects: MAX_INT by 1
Affects: BONUS_UNDEAD_CONTROL by 2
Affects: REGEN_MANA by 2
Affects: PRIME_ORDER_LAG by -2
Only those who are primary supreme necromancers, and have attained
supremacy in all eight classesmay use this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Vestment of the Unholy Rite (0),
2x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Crystal Sleeves of Desecration…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘crystal sleeves desecration sext40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: PERSONAL MAGIC
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE ARMS
AC-apply is -0.7
Can affect you as:
Affects: UNDEAD_CONTROL by 1
Affects: MAX_INT by 1
Affects: MAX_CON by 1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Diamond Sleeves of Desecration (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Midnight Onyx Sleeves of Desecrated Souls…Here is a little bit
of information for you:’
Object ‘midnight onyx sleeves desecrated souls oct40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: PERSONAL MAGIC
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE ARMS
AC-apply is -0.8
Can affect you as:
Affects: UNDEAD_CONTROL by 2
Affects: MAX_INT by 1
Affects: MAX_CON by 1
Affects: PRIME_ORDER_LAG by -2
Only those who are primary supreme necromancers, and have attained
supremacy in all eight classesmay use this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Crystal Sleeves of Desecration (0),
2x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (0)
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, a precious ingot of palladium…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘precious ingot palladium’, Item type: TREASURE
Item is: NOBITS
Weight: 1, Value: 50000gold, Worn in: TAKE HOLD
Requires: 5000000 coins, 5x a palladium bar (0)
Thought I’d post my first impressions of the new system…
Firstly there is no disadvantages with this new system at all, because the current system remains and new options and power have been created. The new system is of net benefit to the player in every sense. Thanks to the imms for organising this, as it’s gone a long ways to fixing gaps in the system with older problems like the absence of stats like Undead Control, Spells Saves, Hand Dam etc.
As you progress through the game you basically get special tokens now…
3x40 earns 1st token
6x40 earns 2nd token
8x40 earns 3rd token
Rebirth + 3x40 earns 4th token
Rebirth + 6x40 earns 5th token
Rebirth + 8x40 earns 6th token
Tokens are spent on items worth, 1 or 2 (6x40 item) or 3 (8x40 item) tokens. The more tokens the item is worth, the better it is. You can use these tokens to spend on combinations… any number of combinations of the 3/6/8x40 items as long as you have the tokens to spend. For example a rebirth 8x40 could have 2 8x40 items or 3 6x40 items, 6 3x40items or combinations like 1 8x40 item, 1 6x40 item and 1 3x40 item etc. In each of these cases the sum worth of all the items is 6 tokens.
Advanced players who have eq modes, where nearly every item changes between eq modes have a lot of options to look at, but quick analysis reveals that the clasps might be good options for these players as they can be worn in every mode… not just eq you wear in one mode.
There doesn’t appear to be a need to hurry or make rash decisions. I think in most cases people will keep there current 3x40 eq choices.
The bars required for the 6x40 and 8x40 upgrade items pop fairly easy on epics… theoretically the most bars you will ever need is 15 per play through (30 for Rebirths). There is going to be a bottle neck at the start with everyone wanting bars but it should clear up in a month I suspect.
Players may want to hold off on trading in the new system, until the format of Rebirth Shop is announced as that will have bearing on what items are more valuable.
I suspect this is a mistake and is supposed to be Primary Warrior, as monks already have another Primary Body Item with Hand Dam and this one is Weapon Dam. If an imm can confirm that would be great.
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Ancient Cuirass of the War Gods…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘cuirass ancient war gods oct40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: PERSONAL MAGIC
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE BODY
AC-apply is -2.7
Can affect you as:
Affects: MAX_CON by 1
Affects: HITPOINT by 15
Affects: REDUCE_DAMAGE by 2
Affects: WEAPON_DAMAGE by 5
Affects: HITROLL by 2
Only those who are primary supreme monks, and have attained supremacy in
all eight classesmay use this item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Mithril Cuirass of the Ancients (0),
2x a precious ingot of palladium (0), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (3)
Yes, should be primary warrior. Teker, Neptune, or Breeze can fix.
The cuirass has been adjusted to be 3x40 Warrior Prime.
-Neptune
Just looked, think you meant 8x40 warrior prime.
Yes, I meant 8x40 Prime Warrior.
-N
Could an imm pls confirm that the bars load on epics, as there have been a number of houses recently and situations where epics have been killed probably in numbers to justify at least one pop, and no bars have loaded.
Could they also please make the bars no_steal.
EDIT: Talked to Maniac, bars are on the epic treasure list… hence they should be loading on anything that the potions etc load on.
I tried upgrading an item today and ran into this kink…
Alexus Silverlight tells you ‘Ahh yes, Mithril Cuirass of the Ancients…Here is a little bit of
information for you:’
Object ‘cuirass mithril ancients sext40’, Item type: ARMOR
Item is: PERSONAL MAGIC
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE BODY
AC-apply is -2.6
Can affect you as:
Affects: HITPOINT by 40
Affects: REDUCE_DAMAGE by 1
Affects: WEAPON_DAMAGE by 1
Affects: HITROLL by 1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six classes may use this
item.
Requires: 0 coins, 1x Adamantine Cuirass of the Ancients (0),
1x a precious ingot of palladium (1), 1x a glowing token of flawless palladium (1)
My Adamantine Cuirass of the Ancients which was in inv, obviously didn’t match the item id in the forge… but rather than wait for an imm, I went to oakenshield, traded my cuirass back, for the same type of cuirass and then the forge worked.
So it appears some of the forges might have difficulty with old existing 3x40 items. I will speak to an imm about getting my exchanges cleared. Might need Breeze for that.
EDIT: Apparently old 3x40 items need to be “replaced” by oakenshield first before the 6 or 8x40 forges will work. This does not count as an exchange.
Yes, the forges all use the new items. Even though some of the Oakenshield 3x40 items have the same name and stats as the old objects, they are in fact different objects.
The exchanges of the old 3x40 items into tokens do not count towards your exchange count. The only exchanges that count, at all, are the new 3x40 items back into the tokens. Even the 6x40 and 8x40 forge exchanges don’t count, because they have an inherent exchange cost of the lost ingots of palladium.
The Axe of Dwarvish Kings is amazing, and literally everyone (except monks) should get it. Possibly some monks should pick it up too…
My old necromancer would have drooled over that order lag reducing eq!
Thank you for all the new options.
Heads up. Based on player feedback, we have matched the proc rate of the 6x40 staff to that of the whip from EU. Please see me online for a replacement staff if you have already forged one. Cheers!
Are you SERIOUS? A weapon that procs firewind like the whip. That’s too far. Whats next backstab every round? You think I’m kidding, but that staff would frequently do 1000 damage a round. This is me in my spellsaves mode and my whip is already nearly as good as my sword… without the procs. If it procced twice and I had two firewinds that would be almost 2000 a round. That’s not good, that’s just silly.
Damage Dealt Times Average Amount
------------------------------ ----- --------------
Firewind 6 379.7
Whip 9 90.1
Other 2 -----
Total 15 205.9This is the peak of my warrior power, I am a capped warrior… This is regular attack, broadside.
Damage Dealt Times Average Amount
------------------------------ ----- --------------
Pound 5 111.0
Slash 43 98.6
Other 1 -----
Total 48 99.9I don’t have a lot of time right now to reply, but let’s have the conversation. I think the math is not as bad as you think, but I could be wrong. Start at baseline. No bonuses, firewind is 150 damage? 1 in 6 proc rate equals 150 / 6 on average, which is 25 damage. On the high end, 400 damage per firewind is 400 / 6, which is 66 damage. Gorka is doing 98.6. Now add into the equation that being in battle is far more painful on a caster than a warrior. Help me understand the imbalance.
Quote: Damage Dealt Times Average Amount
Firewind 12 437.1
Flame strike 13 164.6
Slash 72 92.4
Whip 58 72.5
Your saying 1/6 procs… and I have 5 attacks… so lets work it out over 30 attacks (6 Rounds) as that’s divisible.
Swords (Weapon Dam - Capped +35)
30 * 97.4 = 2922 (Slashes)
Total = 2922
Whip (Weapon Dam +24) 2d7 +3 +2 (Avg 8 )
30 * 72.5 = 2175 (Whip Damage)
5 * 164.6 = 823 (Flame Strikes)
Total = 2998
Staff (Weapon Dam +24) 4d6 (Avg 12 (+4))
30 * 76.5 = 2295 (Staff Damage)
5 * 437.1 = 2185 (Firewind Procs)
Total = 4480
Already the whip is the same or marginally better than a capped warrior… Now you want to give mages an extra 1,558 damage over 6 rounds.
Cost for an extra 60 damage in 5 rounds according to drachma shops…
Relic - 740 Drachma
Bracer - 770 Drachma
Your giving them 1558 (26 * 700+ drachma) for nothing. This doesn’t even factor in that the mage will have more saves and spellbonus than me…
FYI: I don’t get those damage figures. I average 20.4 staff damage and 375 proc damage. Don’t get me wrong: it’s the best weapon I’ve had, but your estimations are way off.
30 * 20.4 = 612
5 * 375 = 1875
Total = 2487
If Nork’s numbers are true, I have a lot less of a problem with it. 20.4 damage is feeble, do you have any dam or weapon dam? This weapon needs to be caster restricted though. Gorka has over 50 dam to add to any weapon, not to mention massive critical hit damage. Do not let players like me have this weapon. If you don’t restrict me, it will be the next thing I try to get. Even if I had to rebirth a second time to get another 3 tokens… if that ever becomes a thing.
I will have to work through your numbers, but it seems like at first glance you mixed eqsets to get your whip and staff melee damage in combination with 430 firewinds. Said another way, there is no eqset that provides 437 damage firewinds and a 72.5 average damage on the pound. Your 72.5 average pound includes two things: warrior prime crit rate and 24 weapon damage. To get 437 damage winds, you are probably at -23 saves and 100 spell damage, and your weapon damage is probably 13 (the 10 you bought from the avatar shop plus the 3 damroll you bought).
I think the average pound from a ridiculously capped out mage is closer to the 13 weapon dam plus the weapon damage of 4d6, which is 14, so average damage is 27, not 72.5. Let’s throw in the practically non-existant crits that caster prime with warrior 5th-or-below gets and their weapon dam might be 35 on average. To give you something closer to reality, Norks is 8.36 rebirth and his average pound is 20.3. He didn’t buy the weapon dam or the damroll, so there you have it.
So at 35 pound damage, you are looking at 1050 melee damage over 30 attacks, not 2295. Add in 5 procs at 450 damage and you get 2250, for a total damage of 3300, compared with your 2922. You are at -14 ac with 1600 hitpoints while a mage is at -7 ac and 1200 hitpoints. The entire game is a tradeoff of offense vs. defense and how the varying points along that curve yield xp. So, in general, as offense goes up, defense should go down, and vice versa. So it doesn’t bother me that a mage can do more damage than a warrior, but they get punished for it. Some other unknowns in the equation is Gorka’s hitroll vs, a mage’s hitroll… all of the melee calculationd assume you are actually hitting the mob. There is a huge difference between 28 hitroll and 15 to 20 hitroll.
Enough to chew on for now… am at a party with friends.
The whip and firewind numbers I gave should be true if I had the staff. Just give me the staff for an hour and I can come back with some hard data instead of all this guessing. I predict You would give me about a 33% increase on top of my melee damage (It would be even more for players like Norks because his damage is low) in my saves mode… which already gives me more burst damage than anyone on the mud and hence why I have done well in the later parts of the coliseum. The coliseum will be rewritten with that weapon… but who really cares about that anyway…
This is the mode I would run the staff in, it only has 11 less weapon damage than ac. The saves mode is far more powerful than my ac mode in damage output thanks to proc weapons like these.
19hit, 20dam +3 warcry, 24wd, -10.1, 21 saves, 120 spell dam. (Saves)
28hit, 18dam +3 warcry, 35wd, -14, 11 saves, 37 spell dam. (AC)
I would probably be doing about 76dam melee, procing firewinds, and then second winding my own firewinds, starting with a decent stab that might already cripple the mob causing double damage. The game would have seen nothing like it.
It’s completely unprecedented in this game to give out such a high damage increase so easily. This is not a damage point this is literally 100’s of damage points. Even if mages needed something, It’s the grossest increase in the history of this game since death by chocolate or a grenade.
The only thing working in your argument, is that Norks is comparatively feeble due to his poor melee. He’s also made choices that put him at a disadvantage by ignoring melee and trying to be a prime in a class he is not prime in. But you have to factor in other players do not make these choices - and it IS a penalty he’s taken upon himself and therefore he bears that responsibility personally - not the game.
I’m totally shocked by the causal manner of this increase when I am used to spending hundreds of drachma to try and get +1 damage. I believe that time will show me to be correct, and the game will be cheapened by such a gross and free increase in damage, and rest assured every single player now wants that weapon. If this is not an indication that something is wrong, the other imms need to step in.
If you give me the staff for 1hr I can prove to you the percentage increase it would do to a player like me, and it’s not really acceptable, not because I don’t want it, or that I wouldn’t love to have it myself, but because it’s cheapened the game. Hard work in this game should be rewarded, giving out 100’s of damage points for free, I just think ruins the game.
But for heavens sake, stop arguing with me, give me the weapon for an hour and lets collect some hard data. This has already gone on long enough without some proper fact checking.
All good points, Gorka. I will lend you the weapon and let’s get the facts. In no way do we want to ruin this game, but rather the goal was to provide something worthy of two (and three) 3x40 items into a forge to give more options for playstyle, leading to a deeper game experience..
Thanks to Maniac who gave me a staff for testing. I went ahead and did as fair a test as I could… Figures below… The short version is, the staff increased Gorka’s total damage by about 200 per round, or by 40% over the 6 rounds. The difference the staff makes for any player can be measured as the difference between their firewind and their flamestrike, plus a little extra melee damage. Basically for any mage out there who uses the whip, this item is 200+ damage in 1/6 attacks… (That’s attacks… not rounds) It would be like giving me two extra attacks for free or 30-40 unearned bonus weapon dam… it just doesn’t make sense.
Gorka – Saves Mode – With Uber Staff
The following bonuses affect you:
Hit Roll : ( 16) [|||||||| ]
Damage : ( 18) [||||||||| ]
Flail Damage : 14% ( 10) [||||||| ]
Damage Red. : 16% ( 4) [|||||||| ]
+Damage Red. : ( 16) [ oo ]
+Stab Damage : ( 10) [ Inactive ]
Spell Bonus : 57% ( 53) [|||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ]
+Spell Bonus : ( 67) [ oo ]
+Heal Bonus : ( 25) [ Inactive ]
+Hand Damage : ( 5) [ Inactive ]
+Undead Ctrl : ( 5) [ Inactive ]
Charisma : 41% ( 5) [|||||||||||||||||||| ]
Weapon Dam : 48% ( 12) [|||||||||||||||||||||||| ]
+Weapon Dam : ( 10) [ oo ]
Save Breath : ( -2) [ ]
Save Paralysis: ( -2) [ ]
Save Petrifica: ( -2) [ ]
Save Poison : ( -2) [ ]
Save Spell : 91% (-21) [||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ]
Damage Dealt Times Average Amount
Firewind 77 375.1
Pound 374 78.1
Sting 58 87.2
Gorka – Saves Mode – With Old Whip
The following bonuses affect you:
Hit Roll : ( 19) [||||||||| ]
Damage : ( 20) [|||||||||| ]
Flail Damage : 14% ( 10) [||||||| ]
Damage Red. : 16% ( 4) [|||||||| ]
+Damage Red. : ( 16) [ oo ]
+Stab Damage : ( 10) [ Inactive ]
Spell Bonus : 57% ( 53) [|||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ]
+Spell Bonus : ( 67) [ oo ]
+Heal Bonus : ( 25) [ Inactive ]
+Hand Damage : ( 5) [ Inactive ]
+Undead Ctrl : ( 5) [ Inactive ]
Charisma : 41% ( 5) [|||||||||||||||||||| ]
Weapon Dam : 56% ( 14) [|||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ]
+Weapon Dam : ( 10) [ oo ]
Save Breath : ( -2) [ ]
Save Paralysis: ( -2) [ ]
Save Petrifica: ( -2) [ ]
Save Poison : ( -2) [ ]
Save Spell : 91% (-21) [||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ]
Damage Dealt Times Average Amount
Firewind 48 342.8
Flame strike 17 161.8
Whip 86 73.5
Gorka – AC Mode - With Uber Staff
The following bonuses affect you:
Hit Roll : ( 23) [||||||||||| ]
Damage : ( 16) [|||||||| ]
Flail Damage : 14% ( 10) [||||||| ]
Damage Red. : 44% ( 11) [|||||||||||||||||||||| ]
+Damage Red. : ( 16) [ oo ]
+Stab Damage : ( 10) [ Inactive ]
Spell Bonus : 13% ( 12) [|||||| ]
+Spell Bonus : ( 25) [ oo ]
+Heal Bonus : ( 25) [ Inactive ]
+Hand Damage : ( 5) [ Inactive ]
+Undead Ctrl : ( 5) [ Inactive ]
Charisma : 41% ( 5) [|||||||||||||||||||| ]
Weapon Dam : 92% ( 23) [|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ]
+Weapon Dam : ( 10) [ oo ]
Save Breath : ( -2) [ ]
Save Paralysis: ( -2) [ ]
Save Petrifica: ( -2) [ ]
Save Poison : ( -2) [ ]
Save Spell : 47% (-11) [||||||||||||||||||||||| ]
Damage Dealt Times Average Amount
Firewind 40 244.3
Pound 214 87.4
Sting 38 110.9
Gorka – AC Mode – With sword of Valor
The following bonuses affect you:
Hit Roll : ( 28) [|||||||||||||| ]
Damage : ( 18) [||||||||| ]
Flail Damage : 14% ( 10) [||||||| ]
Damage Red. : 44% ( 11) [|||||||||||||||||||||| ]
+Damage Red. : ( 16) [ oo ]
+Stab Damage : ( 10) [ Inactive ]
Spell Bonus : 13% ( 12) [|||||| ]
+Spell Bonus : ( 25) [ oo ]
+Heal Bonus : ( 25) [ Inactive ]
+Hand Damage : ( 5) [ Inactive ]
+Undead Ctrl : ( 5) [ Inactive ]
Charisma : 41% ( 5) [|||||||||||||||||||| ]
Weapon Dam : 100% ( 25) [||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||]
+Weapon Dam : ( 10) [ oo ]
Save Breath : ( -2) [ ]
Save Paralysis: ( -2) [ ]
Save Petrifica: ( -2) [ ]
Save Poison : ( -2) [ ]
Save Spell : 47% (-11) [||||||||||||||||||||||| ]
Damage Dealt Times Average Amount
Firewind 41 274.3
Slash 113 101.7
Notes: Grand Struggle was up entire time. I tried to keep the test as fair as possible, however grace fell for a while affecting my firewinds in my Saves Mode – No Staff test. I have complete logs, if something needs to be checked.
Findings… 30 attack Battle… 5 procs – Total Damage…
No Staff (Saves/Whip) = (73.5 * 30) + (161.8 * 5) = 3,014
No Staff (AC) = (101.7 * 30) = 3,051
With Staff (AC) = (87.4 * 30) + (244 * 5) = 3842
With Staff (Saves) = (78.1 * 30) + (375 * 5) = 4218
Total Increase to Gorka in damage output if he had a staff…
40% in his saves mode or +200dam per round.
To any player the new staff is a damage increase of 200 damage per round.
Thanks for the test! I want to balance the item by keeping the 1/6 proc rate, but lower the spell damage. Can you report back with your damage on hellstrike, ice ray, disint, and thunder clap?
Quote: Flame strike 12 177.5
Ice ray 10 214.7
Destruction 10 227.2
Disintegrate 18 267.2
Thunder clap 10 310.9
You were prepared to give warriors items with +5 Weapon dam at the elitist 8x40 level… that would translate to about 30-40 damage per round extra with 5 attacks on average. Hence I think you should be looking at something in the order of 50 damage more than a flame strike for the staff. In my opinion destruction is a good choice… because it also negates the elemental resistances that the mob may have, that a lot of the times flame strike or firewind won’t work on. Disintegrate arguably might go a little bit too far, but up to you. Hellstrike for some reason is almost no improvement on flame strike.
Just a quick caution:
Destruction and disintegrate have a -con component built in, and do interesting things after the mob’s constitution gets to zero. A party full of disintegration staff users might be more obscene than firewind staffs!
As a quick side-note, Gorka wielding the new ‘axe of dwarvish kings’ should increase his damage by about 56/round over a sword of valor. It has the advantage of not requiring any about saves or spelldam gear.
I was unaware that proc weapons are already eclipsing that output.
Thanks to Gorka and excellent testing and collaboration, I think we have a properly balanced item. The 6x40 staff is now an ice ray proc with the same rate as the EU whip, and we have added -1 saving spell to the item.
Object ‘holy staff ancients sext40’, Item type: WEAPON
Item is: GLOW PERSONAL MAGIC
Weight: 10, Value: 1gold, Worn in: TAKE WIELD
Damage Dice is ‘4D6’
Can affect you as:
Affects: MAX_INT by 1
Affects: MAX_WIS by 1
Affects: MANA by 10
Affects: REGEN_MANA by 4
Affects: SAVING_SPELL by -1
Only those who have attained supremacy in at least six
classes may use this item.
Keep the discussions going for other items that appear unbalanced. Is the axe good, or do we need to evaluate it further?
In light of recent information about actually viable proc weapons, I’m no longer worried about the axe. (I didn’t realize there was already a whip with 25 average damage)
In the right gear, the new (nerfed!) holy staff appears to average 50 damage per swing. We may start seeing clerics without their iconic maces in the near future.
The axe doesn’t require special gear and probably allows riposte, but it deals only 26 per swing and gives no random buffs (MR/maxwis/saves). If anything, it’s under-powered by comparison. A persistent ‘frenzy’ effect might be cute.
I’ll go back to dreaming about +strikedam equipment!
I’m gonna be the guy to go ahead and say it:
Proc weapons’ blast damage should be scaled to saves and spellbonus and a lot more and tacked to a base blast amount less.
If you’re going to look at ‘average dam’ based on G’s figures, you’re not taking into account that while a warrior wears weapondam to increase the damage of his normal weapon while still retaining ac, casters should be able to similarly affect both their casts as well as their weapon blast proc with equipment that they wear. The proc damage on the weapon itself should scale higher dam for those losing ac/dam reduc, etc to sacrifice for blasting power (with saves and spellbonus). It just makes sense with a proc weapon.
Any future proc weapon that comes out will have this same dilemma. Relying too heavily on base amounts currently, the multi-class chars using blast oriented proc weapons (cough the ones ironically poking fun at people for playing outside of their prime style) will then cry it makes them too OP average dam wise and is more effective than a warrior weapon (god forbid). Then it gets nerfed- hurting the max proc dam on other end by casters when it shouldn’t.
The only solution I can think of that will boost a caster’s max dam on proc without making it hugely OP for other tanky multi-class chars is to make innate dam on weapon itself middling and then the proc damage to scale with saves and spellbonus a lot more. Otherwise you’ll have this same argument every time. The way it doesn’t scale currently cheapens the proc weapons- and will inevitably lead to whittling down all new elite proc weapons due to multi-class tanky types being OP and their arguments being favored over casters, who should be doing more blast proc damage than a non caster without similar blast oriented eq anyway.
For top end caster chars that don’t need the max wis and max int…the new staff is essentially close to a whip replica with a save. It’s even less desirable compared to just keeping whip because there are waaaay more fire weak mobs, coli mobs are often fire weak, there are waaay more sun and heat houses than winter, etc. Fixed OP on one end, and hurt the classes that were intended to use this as a caster weapon.
Not complaining. We all really appreciate the all the hard work on these items, Driven. But I was interested in a saves proc weapon before this nerf. I just am bringing up a blanket issue about proc weapons I see needs changing.I believe it would be a better remedy than the current fix, not only for this proc weapon, but for any from the past/future.
Again, thanks for all the hard work and taking input from us. You rock.
Just my two cents,
-Ezekiel
Ezekiel wrote: The only solution I can think of that will boost a caster’s max dam on proc without making it hugely OP for other tanky multi-class chars is to make innate dam on weapon itself middling and then the proc damage to scale with saves and spellbonus a lot more. Otherwise you’ll have this same argument every time.
Ezekiel and I discussed my post before he posted this, and I totally agree with him. The problem with proc weapons is that they don’t scale well with the benefits that only mages can get (increased spell damage and saves). This makes them deadly in even a warriors hands even though he may have less of those things. We have a situation where the proc weapons produces more damage for those already doing a lot… I never sort to stop mages from having an increase… I just wanted to point out, that weapon was out of balance for warriors and it was probably the single biggest damage increase given to anyone in the game.
However I don’t think it’s smart to make the case without showing the figures, which I asked Ezekiel to do. The mages have always been a sneaky lot with there claims of victimization and their tendency to blame their under achievements on warrior privilege instead of hard work, (pajama bastages :twisted:) and I’d prefer that they demonstrated the facts, by doing the test that I did, showing there whip damage (counters) and their score stats2 in there saves eq mode, so we can all check our privilege. I also note they don’t seem to value weapon damage as they should (Avatar Shop / Tomb Jades). I still think the staff was the single biggest increase for anyone at any point in the game and it was the right decision to change it. I think they have a reason to be disappointed in how it is now ice-ray.
Ezekiel also made the case that heat houses are more frequent than cold… which is true. He also tried to make the case that a warrior is more armored and durable and therefore mages who are more crunchy should have more burst damage. I kind of agree, but pointed out my -21 saves mode with 120sb is -10ac. It seems half the saves and sb eq doesn’t spoil your ac, but the other half mages do need… in fact spoils it completely.
In any case… still think a mage needs to post there whip numbers (if they have nothing to hide)… and I think the problem can only be addressed through scaling as suggested. I know that’s a difficult solution, but the right one. But… posting the numbers would help with that scaling process.
I think the base damage of spells has always been a bit too high… this is why mages do well in the lower coliseums, but eventually the melee types outstrip them. Mages simply do not get as good of an increase as they should when they approach their elite levels from their spell bonus and saves. Perhaps at lower levels the spell base damage is too high and there is not enough emphasis on the importance of the saves and sb stats.
The staff is slightly better offensively than the whip in my hands. I get about 20 more damage on the proc from ice over fire and the dice are better. But it doesn’t have the +dam or the +hit that the whip does. The passive attributes are nice but don’t add to the weapon’s offensive prowess. I much preferred it with a firewind proc. Why wouldn’t I? Maybe we could have an 8x40, caster-restricted version with the same stats and proc rate but with a firewind proc? True it would be a big bump to our offensive capabilities but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that.