Fuck this BS… kill my char and pword me when I go afk doing a fight to put kids on buss and then call it botting? Screw it.. fun as this polace can be.. I’ll find another.. sure I wont be missed by much but shrug.. those who enjoyed my company I did the same..
btw…… any cheats and quests u need answered can be emailed to brunoelso@hotmail.com :evil:
1:Finding a cool place to mud: 0$
2: Leveling up a cool char: 0$
3: Being caught making xp’s while afk: 0$
4: Someone screaming Clink sucks!!
Priceless!
(It would have to have been a 3rd offense for the password?
They normaly give a couple warnings 1st – but maybe you were
afk and had not heard the warnings….Maybe they changed things
though since I been away)
I am what I am, but I strive to be it consistently.
Botting is getting exp or gold or eq while not at the keyboard. Life
happens and there is a pretty clear distinction between running a bot
and checking in on your character versus using scripts to assist with
some of the more mundane tasks of the mud.
Punishment on first offense is typically death while afk (in a manner
that likely wouldn’t happen while you are there) and 5 levels when you
return to claim your character. In general, when you return to
discuss the matter, signing off before an immortal can return your
password will prevent you from logging back in.
A second violation results in a wiping of the character.
If you wish to return, simply email me as the email address below is undeliverable at this time.
Regards,
Clink
Sorry we can’t see eye to eye on this Clinky but that high horse of yours stinks to high heavens. Botting and being killed (1st) offense as you so say only holds ground if for say I left a “bot” and you took action while I was actually extremely afk say at work or sleeping.. however in this case.. you decided,without actually checking by tells or such to see if I was here and had MOB’s attack him. The timing itself was impeccable, but had I not went outside for those 2-3 minutes to watch kids load on bus, then I could have easily recalled when you sent the MOB’s to attack. Again.. this happened doing the course of 1 fight… I got up fighting a star lord.. came back to same fight and negative hitpoints… then scrolling up to see what the hell happened..well the conclusion tells itself.I’m sure you could try to back your argument with ‘IMM" knowledge but your’e full of it. I’ve cycled star city hard over last 3 days… mainly for the coins and experience.. it is ideal for a -7 warrior..In any case.. no use complaining.. it was a shitty action to take.. the thing that really irked me was the response when I questioned what the hell were u doing you stated.. don’t even begin to question me on this.. wtf
You’ve acted.. now I shall re-act
ps-Diazz you input is greatly appeciated but only when you know what the hell your’e talking about.
It is said that you are not to bot. While they seem to normally look the other way on some stuff, this specific instance kind of bothers me.
Although given the rules that should be well known, Clink did what he felt needed to get done.
However if your going to fry Hades as a player, please make a solid attempt to then address all players who bot and screw stuff up for others.
The bots in groups in particular really drag the game down, and piss people off. Some people are really bad about it and need this same treatment.
Id love nothing more than to see some regular bot players get fried.
Hades to you, sorry to see what happend happen. If you want some valk help ill log on my valker to try to bring you back up to speed. But perhaps dont bot even for 3-4 mins. Build a switch or something and un-auto your char in the future.
Mosaix
I especially hope you pay close attention Clink
http://www.filecabi.net/video/hornets-bees16.html
Enjoy
Hades, bub, I’ve had more chars (both mortal and immortal) wiped then you can count.
Ive had the pleasure of wiping more chars for multiplaying/botting then I can care to even dare count.
If you think im defending Clink, your far from wrong, but neither do I advocate him, I was just trying to be funny.
This does seem kind of suspicious to me.
[quote:5y03nxa4]“RULE 4” “RULE FOUR” ROBOT BOTTING
- No Robotting.
=================
Robotting is the act of setting up your MUD client to run the character on
its own. Playing a ‘robot’ character is forbidden, and will be punished.
You MAY create actions/triggers that perform otherwise repetitive actions
during and between fights. E.g. circling, eating and drinking.
If you need to AFK to get a drink or answer the phone, that is one thing,
being AFK in a group for 10-15 minutes while still “magically entering
portals and blinding Mobsâ€, WILL NOT be tolerated. If your leader believes
you are botting, good chances you are!!![/quote:5y03nxa4]
If all you were gone was a couple minutes on the same mob, then it shouldn’t have been “botting.” The rules help says you can even write scripts to continue circling or whatever in a fight, and can go AFK to do little tasks, so I can’t see why spamming kick and doing something else for a moment would be any different.
[quote:5y03nxa4]Botting is getting exp or gold or eq while not at the keyboard. Life
happens and there is a pretty clear distinction between running a bot
and checking in on your character versus using scripts to assist with
some of the more mundane tasks of the mud.[/quote:5y03nxa4]
This definitely seems like a much different definition of botting than the one players have the ability to see. And even under it, it’s not like he was just checking up on his char, he was checking up on life, no scripts attached (as far as I know).
On the other hand, group botting is definitely something to be addressed as Mosaix said.
yeah that sucks to lose 5 levels…
but they can be replaced…
burn on hades, burn on…
and…
In 1972 a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn’t commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem. If no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire, The A Team.
HAH,
brand
Applaud :twisted:
that was great!
PS. I’ve had many amusing arguments and MUD-fights with Clink over the last 10 years about everything. Been transd to pissed off mobs, blown to bits, smited, disconnected, tossed from catapaults and even slapped. Mostly in good fun, but several because I deserved it. :shock:
My point is that Clink rarely does anything aggressive unless provoked (which I love provoking Clink). You can say what you want and whine forever, But it’s his call, thats why he has the power, he earned it.
So good night, stfu and i’ll most likely kill you in the morning.
:twisted:
Yours truly,
Brand that A Team comment was some funny shit!!!
[quote:2waux193]On the other hand, group botting is definitely something to be addressed as Mosaix said.[/quote:2waux193]
We can begin to address group botting as mortals. Just as an example, if someone hasn’t fixed protects after the group kills a few mobs, I always have a spare recall. To me, it’s worth spending the 2k to recall the bot. If people notice, that’s a good opportunity to say “Oh, I’ve got a new person above me, could you fix prots?”.
Also, I’ve seen leaders ask people to recall and afk in town if they plan to be away for more than a minute.
There doesn’t have to be any implied “conflict”. If someone gets recalled they should be ready to come back to the group when they’re ready and available to participate.
Just my opinions.
To Hades;
Just bot the five levels back:)
I can count on one hand how many botters inside of groups have been reported to me, it just doesn’t happen. There are several fun ways to handle group botters;
Place them underneath the tank in the protect order-tank removes protect…
Leader runs to a room with a cold, fire, etc affect-great spot is olympus. Leave the botter in the room-he dies
Simply kick them out of the group-how hard is that?
I am probably forgetting a few more Ive used in the past but those are the most fun.
Enjoy,
Splork
Laugh, this is cute. Luckily, most the folks I group with are better players than I am. :)
Most.
Laugh, this is cute. Luckily, most the folks I group with are better players than I am. :)
Most.[/quote:1oel0m9s]
Thats not really saying much :twisted:
#1 Autolycos is awfully noisy for a ghost.
#2 I think Splork and Krok share the same bloodline. Smile…dance like snoopy!
So basically Clink has just allowed us to pkill botters!
Thanks, Clink!
[quote:3se50j10]
I can count on one hand how many botters inside of groups have been reported to me, it just doesn’t happen. There are several fun ways to handle group botters;
Place them underneath the tank in the protect order-tank removes protect…
Leader runs to a room with a cold, fire, etc affect-great spot is olympus. Leave the botter in the room-he dies [/quote:3se50j10]
This definitely seems like a much different definition of botting than the one players have the ability to see.
On the other hand, group botting is definitely something to be addressed as Mosaix said.[/quote:159svfow]
The description/defintion I wrote here is clearly consistent with the first paragraph of the rule description quoted from the mud. I am not particularly happy with the third paragraph onward of the rule description as it seems to imply a vary narrow focus. I will work to get it more in line with botting as a soloer as well as a group member.
I agree in general that more should be done about botting in groups. But, it needs to start with the players. It is extremely time consuming to find bots in actively run groups as an admin and we make the assumption that players can and should reject them. It is relatively trivial to notice bots when you are in a group for a few runs.
If someone is botting in a group you are in (not just “your group” as the leader), deal with them. They are stealing your fair share of exp and gold. Recall them for starters and tell them to knock it off. If someone has scripts good enough to stay with a group when they are unwanted, then let the immortals know about it. I assure you I will deal with it when I have time, and other admins will too.
As a final note, I won’t comment in public forums about the specifics of this case as is typical for me.
Regards,
Clink
The 5 levels and complete set of eq that I lost can be replaced easy enough.. However.. i must re-affirm my earlier statement.. botting will in its strictest terms I would be indeed found guilty however to rebute Splork’s statement.. I think more than a handful of players could also under strictest terms be considered “botting”.. ..
Proof you say… anytime anyone got up to take a piss,grab a smoke,fix a drink,change the baby’s diaper/fix bottle etc etc are technically ‘botting’ however.. being as they are at keyboard before..mostly during.. and immediately after a fight should be excluded… I could understand someone going afk 10 or more minutes, when group wasn’t in regen mode, botting but any less should be exempt.. as I stated before.. I got up long enough to shoo kids out of house and onto bus.. had Clink waitied and checked a few fights to see if I was afk or not OR most importantly raised me after dying to see if I was there or not would have solved this from the get go.
I propose an apology from Clink for jumping to conclusions. In return, I will be sure to under no circumstances whatsoever ever get up from my keyboard during a fight.. if I need to.. I’ll recall and come back to fight when I am done running errand.. Like i said earlier.. the 5 levels is not a problem and the equipment while not the irreplaceable will give me something to do.
I await your response.
crickets
exactamondo 8)
If anyone notices a bot please let me know, i haven’t pked anyone for a while and i wouldn’t mind killing a few people. PLS and TY
gt fix prot,
gt 5
gt 4
gt 3
gt 2
gt 1
gt bye, bot
ungroup
Hi, Guinex!
I think you got the bottom line: go afk all you want. Dont do it while fighting or doing something active.
I also personally feel it is extremely poor etiquette, if nothing else, to step away from the keyboard while a group is running. Stuff like afk 10 minutes, but dont recall and just sit there and suck exp is normally handled by the leader, but my suggestion is you recall, sleep, and when you are back rejoin the group. Cause if clink doesnt get ya, maybe someone else will…
Exp and gold are supposed to be earned, thats the whole point, right?
Well, since noone else is saying it, I’ll volunteer.
Hades, did you notice the title of this thread? To propose that anyone apologize to you is rather ridiculous.
Most of us have known Clink for a long time. We support Clink because he’s been fair with us over a span of years. Besides that, who we support doesn’t matter. There is no jury by your peers. The admin enforce the rules. If you have a complaint, you should address it to Clink himself or the other admin.
Charles
Indeed.
Point taken Avatar however.. why is it ridicolous to expect an apology…Clink killed me.. I lost some decent eq… coins.. 5 levels.. all because he chose NOT to follow up and see if I was actually botting… I’m not gonna cry over spilt milk but an acknoledgment that he may have made an error in judgement is not to much to ask.. we all fuck up
Auto… stfu
:twisted:
*yawn..
your clout level is too low for me to acknowledge your pathetic attempt at a stfu.
so please by all means,
please resume being raped by a goat. :twisted:
can clink wipe autolycos for botting on the crier?
Not sure if Clink laid hold to my equipment.. but in case he didn’t.. Any valker
who stumbled across a star lord in star city that was wearing:
pearl of the rising tide
greenish ring x2
silver torc x2
silver leg plates
bronze sleeves
glinting shield of silver
polished steel bracelet x2
mithril axe
belt of the damned
thick iron gauntlets
lesser helm
and backpack had 4-5 sets of star pops
You may lay claim to item or not.. not sure how this matter is handled but
in any case.. I know it was there and if you happen to stumbled across it.. I would like it back