I’ll be 40 prime mage in a few days and any equipment help is appreciated.
Does spelldamage equip make it that much better? I was looking at the eq list and didn’t see much spelldam equipment that wasn’t drachma/forge related or autoquest rewards that I have no idea where to find, and even then most is 2x40 or better. I don’t have any spell bonus equip and only about 3-5 bonus MR at the moment. Almost everything I am using is things people gave to me or I bought from armor/auction shops.
Is there any decent mage equipment that is easy to pop solo? I see a lot of good looking forge stuff but I don’t think I can really solo any of the areas the forges are in. Just assume that I would be level 40 mage.
Anyway, here is my current equip and stats.
Ma: 37 Dr: 20 Cl: 20 Mo: 8
16/18/17/17/13 nat
-4.2ac with stone skin
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did you get that shit out of necrad’s robe?
A crystalline robe would be a good start. Start doin the autoquests and save up some drachma.
Most 40 mage prime equipment ive seen is like no ac, and 15 mana or
mana and regen and no ac. Alll the good stuff is AQ.
The runed onyx bracelets would seem to be the easiest to collect, but as you mention they are restricted to 2x40. The good spellbonus eq is definitely autoquest, starting with the crystalline robe.
On the other question though, I think spellbonus is worthwhile for a mage. Most avatar-level mages wear some amount of spellbonus. It depends on what you have to give up tp gain the spellbonus. The crystalline robe has AC, so if you’re giving up anything from other robes you can wear it might be 1 mr or some small amount of mana. Not a small sacrifice for the spellbonus, if you can afford the drachma.
Not to forget the mage prime aq, only 8 spellbonus, but it’s a start.
I believe that instead of petty eq advice maybe a more philisophical approach may help you more. This is mainly how I feel about playing a char on sloth.
Play your classo
This means if your mage prime, concentrate on some mage eq first and foremost. Mage eq is things with spellbonus, mana, and mana regen. If you come acrros eq with other advantages you can work those in. Druid secondary to me is all about mana regen and gives you alot more choices for getting the said mr.
Mages are powerful damage machines. We use mages to deal the fastest damage to monsters. A strong mage wants the maximum spellbonus. At lower levels I feel you should concentrate more on using mirror image and blasting modes to kill things. Lead with blasting and keep going til the stuff dies, your ac at 0 wont be much different than -3. I see young mages playing like thieves, attack something that hits hard with low hp. The mirrors will save you and the extra mana gear you wear will purchase more mirrors thru the run.
Im not saying that in the future you wont want to wear ac gear. This should grow as your char grows. As your monk levels get higher or double 40 and triple 40 come your eq decisions will change. A majority of avatars have at least 2 eq modes, this consists of mana regen/mana mode and a -10/bonus mode. Sometimes other modes are required such as undead control, shapeshift, maxmana, group mode etc.
Dont be discouraged by eq. The eq that players wear is deserved. Some is not easy to get but worth the overall effort. Try to work on things that you can use, learn some areas on your own, cycle some sbs on your own, and most of all have fun. If I post anymore Ill get flamed. Peace.
Eq can almost be considered “the other half of the journey” to xp. It takes quite a long time to develop your own eq plan, based on how you like to play, the place you find yourself filling in groups etc. Like leveling your character, you can start off getting basic eq pretty fast, but in the same way that higher levels start to become harder and harder to attain, so too eq becomes more work intensive. You find yourself working putting in a lot more work for relatively small gains in AC, MR etc.
My main character has pretty straight forward demands on eq. I’m Wa Cl Ma Th. I’ve aimed at getting AC primarily, then Mana regen, then healo gear. But because of the nature of my character, stats etc, AC/HP gear is number 1 (for tanking) then maybe a higher dam at less AC. After this, I’ve decided to spend my efforts on getting gear to give me a good running healo character in groups. In the dim future, I may aim at developing a stab dam and blast mode, but that’s not the way I tend to play.
You’ll develop your own play style, and with that come up with the modes you prefer to run. Point is, see it as a longer term project. Envisage how you would like to use your character, and aim at that. You’ll start to identify needs yourself, then can use the eq list and the advice of others to fill those needs.
So is the crystalline robe something all mages get? Doesn’t look like there is a better robe for a mage, but I’m pretty weary of spending 150 drachma on something. I did a ’locate object’ and there was a lot of them in use.
BTW I hit 40 prime tonight. I got laughed at for wearing AC gear so I guess I need to find some mage stuff. :P
Also, is it even possible to get multiple drachma items, especially the huge 1000+ dr ones? I know there is drachma scatters but I always miss them.
Yes, there are hundreds of autoquests in the game that give drachma rewards. You just have to talk to the mobs, and ask around.
Nods, most mages get either a crystalline silk robe or a cloak of eternal darkness (cloak’s like silk, but with 25 mana and no ac), and I think it’s 250 drachma actually :)
It’s probably not worth worrying too much about drachma eq besides the robe for a while, quests get a lot easier once you can solo some of the bigger mobs.
Gratz on 40 too.
Hi
My the only char in game is Ma/Dr/Cl/Wa.
Sounds familiar?
Well.. Getting eq at lower levels is really hard.
Esp. that most mobs can kill you in no-time cos of your low hp/ac.
But.. You have Dr in your calsso so take a look at shapeshift. Most shiftable forms, esp. above 40 lev have good ac and tons of HP. tha will allow you get most eq you need. And Cl will give you one of the most usefull supp for your classo - nightmare. Shifted form + nightmare alows you kill amost any mob ingame. Just lear blast(breathe) + flee tactics.
And gratz on 40 prime.
And good luck
Hi, Pee.
First of all, in my opinion your classo is a total bullshit.
And also I’d like to tell you that squeezing eq at low price saying you don’t have money to pay and selling it at higher price is ugly. I don’t like you. Bye.
Now about the mage stuff etc. I can tell you all that even a naked mage at 40 prime can kill stuff that some tards can’t even imagine. The hardest part is to figure ways to do it.
I agree with Mike when he says that it is good to play your classo. If you can’t figure… Well, try cycling stuff in groups.
One more thing. In my opinion adding more spelldam eq would be completely wrong, cause even now we have enough spelldam eq to heavily overcap spelldam no matter what classo you play. And even more – all of it can be worn by a 2x40 char. I don’t like it either.
bump
Messiaen why would his class order be bullshit???
Also I would like to see you solo some shit a avatar can’t at a lvl 40 Mage.
Not a lvl 40 mage + 40 40 40 40.
Mirrors, blast n flee doesn’t work well when ur naked very well at all.
Need I say anymore than last player Rynquald? 8)
I don’t think Ryn can solo stuff naked at lvl 40. He however being a 5x40
can solo stuff. That was my thing with Messiaen. Any char with druid at
5x40 can solo stuff naked. I just want to see a lvl 40 mage solo stuff
bigger then what a tard can’t. I’ll even give the mage 3x40, I want to see!
show me the mob mage prime at 5x40 can’t kill naked or not. 8)
Look just nerf the fuckin prediction and bolt loops so we can quit talking about how powerful Messaien is. Its bullshit anyways. I don’t know how someone can play this game for a year then act like they know more than veterans just because of some stupid ass “feature”.
Messiaen is rather powerful, he had the power to stop a group from randoming for quest eq, and have Atwell simply handed to him instead. Then group went back to randoming.
Other than that ive not been impressed with anything. Maybe his botting skills perhaps.
sheesh, this sandy panty monday or something?
sheesh, this sandy panty monday or something?[/quote:rw0k64u1]
Sandy silk panty Monday to you.
everything is overpowered. and if it’s not overpowered, it’s overrated.
Messiaen is rather powerful, he had the power to stop a group from randoming for quest eq, and have Atwell simply handed to him instead. Then group went back to randoming.
Other than that ive not been impressed with anything. Maybe his botting skills perhaps.[/quote:2efma4w5]
Just tell me when and where. This one is on me, Mo.
Okay, okay…its not just me. We all chipped in. We think you need it.
Thanks brady, hey id like to return the favor
It was hard to find hot pirate chicks, this was the best i could do. One of them will stop by later tonight for you.
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Well done. Just one question. How did you get Aaron to wear those horns? I’m guessing you’re square on the case of Milwaukee’s Best?
roflmfao
heheh
Look just nerf the ****** prediction and bolt loops so we can quit talking about how powerful Messaien is. Its bullshit anyways. I don’t know how someone can play this game for a year then act like they know more than veterans just because of some stupid ass “feature”.[/quote:yficf0ou]
Mike, I reply to you personally. Some time ago I used to be respecting you, I thought, wow, this man sure knows what he is saying. Then after I read some more of your posts on crier and after I have watched you on the mud for a while I figured that you’re probably a nonetify, a boy who wants to seem like something.
Good luck to you on you self-knowledge pathway.
Mike, I reply to you personally. Some time ago I used to be respecting you, I thought, wow, this man sure knows what he is saying. Then after I read some more of your posts on crier and after I have watched you on the mud for a while I figured that you’re probably a nonetify, a boy who wants to seem like something.
Good luck to you on you self-knowledge pathway.[/quote:3vzzfy4k]
Wow I am so unimportant you made up a new word for me nonetify. You can have your opinion and I could care less whether you think I know what I am saying.
See the main difference between myself and some of the other “elite” players is this.
I don’t abuse bugs
I actually help new players
I find myself relocating and raising/cr even for avatars
I lead groups where death is imminent for bots
I spend more time actually on the mud than rehasing a bunch of nonsense on this crier.
When the nerf to ac was implemented did anyone hear me crying about Minstrel being affected? I hear a lot of talk about nobody playing bards but my bard is strong and well played. Notorious in fact.
I refuse to let this game, which I play for enjoyment, make me mad or angry. If something gets nerfed I work around it and try to have fun.
If your mad that I called you out on the prediction/bolt then go ahead and get upset. The “feature” as you call it is cheating in my book and that is why I don’t use it. Refer to number 1 above.
The little boy comment is funny but I refuse to act childish and name call. Im full grown, 31 years old. I raise a girl that is not my child and I help coach her soccer team. I don’t play SlothMUD to “seem” like somebody. In fact if I was trying to make a name for myself it wouldn’t be on a game that nobody has ever heard of. I play sloth to talk to friends and relax period.
We can take it up next time I see you in my vault.
You two should get a room.
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jic
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I hear a lot of talk about nobody playing bards but my bard is strong and well played. Notorious in fact.[/quote:1twc3ka3]
Erm… it was only me who told there are no more prime bards playing around (except Taliesin). You also don’t play your bard on day-basis anymore. Though I agree your bard is still strong and well played. Probably best bard I ever know.
If your mad that I called you out on the prediction/bolt then go ahead and get upset. The “feature” as you call it is cheating in my book and that is why I don’t use it.[/quote:1twc3ka3]
There are at least 2 style of playing:
First one is called ‘straight playing’. You must know advantages of your classorder for groups, you must know areas and how to lead.
Another one is called ‘smart playing’ (but yep I know someone calls it ‘pansy style’ :lol: ). You must know how to kill using your only char, you must know mobs and you must know tricks.
So you just use different styles of playing. And I think pressage is just skill, it were designed to allow monks deal some damage right before fighting. So I don’t agree it’s cheating. Another way we should count mirrors as cheating, juju as cheating and triple stab with poison as cheating for sure :P
I spend more time actually on the mud than rehasing a bunch of nonsense on this crier.[/quote:1twc3ka3]
You did almost 360 posts and Messi did about 60 :P
Your jolly pirate Edd (aka Kida)
I cannot believe this garbage. Coltrane making up new words trying to
bag on Medios? I guess Mike hit a nerve there bitchboy.
[quote:3qy8uqjz]We can take it up next time I see you in my vault.[/quote:3qy8uqjz]
this is gold because it [i:3qy8uqjz]will[/i:3qy8uqjz] happen ^
Atlas (messiaen) went off on a newbie before they even had a chance to explain why they killed a mob, telling them to find another mud and whole types of shit. When he found out that newbie was my wive and that I could see everything that happened by looking at her screen, he was all “oh god I"m so sorry, here let me wipe the shit off my nose so I can kiss your ass some more”. What a fucking dick. As far as I’m concerned, you’re a dumbass anyway- and not just for the shit that happend that day, you’ve been a real tool on dozens of occasions.
As for the prediction/frostbolt “feature” it’s bullshit, and I have a fellow DoW that gets on my nerves cuz he can solo insane mobs that’d give Toxis a challenge. If you don’t know about the bug, let me tell you how it works, cuz it is bullshit.
First you get a familiar, that familiar will let you detect the exact moment a “round” comes into play on sloth. So you prediction, go in right after the mud round happens and blast the mob then flee. You do the exact same thing over and over and never get hit. Sorry to my sloth bud who solo’s everything, but I believe in balance in play, not bullshit in play.
As far as Mike goes, he knows more about sloth in his pinky than 90% of the mud and is one of the best leaders I have ever seen. Don’t get him started on politics though, heh, but he’s a cool guy and I like to mud with him.
Lately I’ve been pretty disappointed with sloth and don’t want to be on. When I am on, I get aggrivated by stupid shit (yinao not even throwing a restoration on toxis, doesn’t matter if sanc fell or not, and yinao having 700 mana, that shit pisses me off).
I don’t care if I piss people off, you all need to just quit playing sloth if you’re not going to take healing the tank seriously, or bot in groups.
I appreciate the coders, and the admin that didn’t piss me off, and I appreciate players who help other players, no matter what their reasons. You know, to put things in perspective about this game… I used to believe that all my helping people when I was level 44 immortal would make me more liked, that I was doing something good for sloth. Now I look back at it and I would say there’s probably 5 players that still play that even remembered I gave out 1000 tri40 items, or restringed that god damn blue comet 3 times in a week… I wish I could remember who that was. None of it matters, this game doesn’t matter, and the only thing you can really look forward to that has any real meaning is turning off the power switch at the end of the day. Because at least that’s a good thing.
-Toxis
-Toxis
[quote:1jvbxozi]Lately I’ve been pretty disappointed with Yinao. Yinao, that shit, pisses me off.You need to just quit playing sloth if you’re not going to take healing the tank seriously, or bot in groups. What a ******* dick.[/quote:1jvbxozi]
I hate to defend someone who obviously would see me dead but if you got a problem with Yinao then perhaps you need to take a chill pill…That dude’s awesome.Period.
You wanna talk shit how you tank unlit while im debuffing a mob brad you can go suck a dick you fuckin panzy ass muther fuckin tank. You wanna tank unlit and bitch, do it by all means, dont fuckin blame other people because you cant cast aegis on yourself you fuckin douche bag. You take 800 in a round 400 hp restore brings you up to 700 next round your dead anyways so fuck yourself.
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Well… I agree with the point of Yinao’s post. At least the points that aren’t censored by the FCC.
Preface: I didn’t see Toxis in his imm guise doing much. Before my time, I expect, being a relatively recent player. So… ignoring that part.
Real part:
Tanks die. A lot. It happens. Lites go down, the cleric isn’t riding the keyboard, the tank dies. It happens. A lot. And sure, Yinao had a lot of mana. That happens a lot too. Just ask Stryx. :) (gentle tease)
Yinao’s as annoying as anybody I can think of, except possibly Al. Or me. :) We talk a lot of shit, but I think most people would agree that at the end of the day we do try to help people and try to contribute to the mud.
Of course, this gets me on DoW’s blacklist (as reported directly to me by a DoW member. Someone tell me what that’s about btw). Anyhoo, I’m rambling. But after the tenth time seeing Toxis leave a group with absolutely no style, I’m just tired of hearing about clerics who don’t heal. Get over it. Sometimes they don’t.
Note to everyone! This is how you leave a group you don’t enjoy very much (at a safe point, of course):
Van – ‘hrm, I think I’m done’
Van – ’thanks for group, see you later’
fol van
not:
Toxis – ‘Yinao, you are the worst cleric in the world and I hate you. I hate you!’
Toxis stops following Shyla.
Shyla – ‘wtf?’
Van – ‘um, dunno’
(note too lazy to check logs, but this is about what happened)
Anyway… just my 2 cents, let the flames begin.
Van
P.S. Hamster love forever!
Btw, this has absolutely nothing to do with 40 mage equipment.
HAMSTERS EAT CORM!
All right, can’t edit my existing post for some reason, so I’ll just add that I died horribly in that group too because Yinao didn’t heal.
WHINE!
I think you died faster than Toxis did, he took 2 rounds you took one. Taunt
And because I didn’t remember to add everything… here’s another one:
I like Mike! Taught me how to run desert, pyramid, got me lots of levels. Great leader, great player, even if he does seem to dislike me these days. :)
Done spamming - have fun.
I think you died faster than Toxis did, he took 2 rounds you took one. Taunt[/quote:324wiud2]
Yeah, you tend to die fast when you have 400 hps and you’re unlit. :)
I think you should learn how to cast ‘aegis’!
aegis - Lvl: 1, Mana: 40, Unlearned
Btw, this has absolutely nothing to do with 40 mage equipment.
HAMSTERS EAT CORM![/quote:23m39n8t]
pfft. hamsters can’t even spell corm let alone eat it. stoopid hamsters. they’re just gerbils ..but bigger.
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Lately I’ve been pretty disappointed with sloth and don’t want to be on.[/quote:1wpnj26w]
I had this whole rant typed out but Brad summed it up for me. More
people make me sick than not so it’s time to go again.
Don’t forget to lick my balls on your way out.
heh sorry, couldn’t resist. :twisted:
When all you pansies are done scraping the sand out of you panties, and Van is done kissing everyone’s ass, lets either get back to mudding or take a needed break- depending on your stance.
Tanks die, clerics forget to heal, necros forget to bind, weaken. At the end of the day its a game and if you don’t enjoy it take a break.
See ya all soon.
Alias
point 1: Nobody likes a fluffer (well, maybe the fluffee, but that’s it).
point 2: The whining is really hurting my eyes.
Don’t forget to lick my balls on your way out.
heh sorry, couldn’t resist. :twisted:[/quote:3oc12dl9]
ROFLMAO!!!!!
I still play Minstrel, just not every day because I am busy leveling Dogs. I didn’t stop playing him because of any nerfs, I am just busy with other chars. Just like I didn’t stop playing Medios when I made Minstrel, just don’t play him as much now.
Believe me Edd I have spent plenty of time using charms, using proc blasting and other things to kill mobs. It takes more time to solo them but usually it is possible if you just think hard and don’t care to die. It is just when I see players soloing mobs that are not meant to be solo. Then I have to say something. Believe it or not some “features” are supposed to be in the game. Take the Archfiend.
I have no idea what Brad is trippin on. I would ascertain that he’s low on cash and venting here. :( I am sure he doesn’t hate anyone.
On another note. I didn’t start playing sloth to act tough or present any kind of image. Anyone who has met me knows that I am pretty straight forward all the time. I never did role play on sloth. I am sure I have said some mean things here and there but overall I try to make sloth a better place for everyone. That said let’s have some fun.
Yeah Medios and I aren’t much good on using ‘features’ like cycling the Sun Avatar with saddled sea horses or charming the Snake Priest in the crypt.
Don’t even get me started on Nab.
We would NEVER spend days daggering the High Priest in Ravenloft in
to kill Georgi and Ivan or cycling the 4 horsemen with each other. No sir. Hell, we wouldn’t even use hermetic res to get mordel to charm himself
and cycle Wurragurr. We are clearly too dumb to have discovered how to
solo the archfiend and the phoenix then just sort of let it be known.
I realize we’re a little dumbed down for you Coltrane but we do our best.
Lemme know when you figure out all the tricks in the Lost Cross.
PS: half of that shit was when you were in the 4th grade probably.
Don’t get me wrong, I didn’t say you don’t know how to use tricks.
I just said you use another style for playing. It isn’t better or worse, it’s just another style.
And thanks for ideas, I didn’t know those.
p.s. But…. if you did use Mordel to kill Wurr… what’s the problem with Messiaen killing poor overlord in his ‘pansy style’? I don’t think Wurr is supposed to be soloable.
Edd aka Kida
Wurr is an easy solo for druid because he doesn’t proc death against +shift. Overlord not so much. It is not the fact that magis with monk can solo such big things, it is the fact that nobody else can. This is not a “trick” like pushing mobs or using secrets. It is a way to continously blast a mob without taking any dmg. The tricks that Aaron mentioned can be used by any class, the mage/monk trick is limited by classo. This ability can be equated to thieves getting to backstab hurt mobs.
. This ability can be equated to thieves getting to backstab hurt mobs.[/quote:hm22bs97]
yes please?
:twisted:
Indeed, if there be enough ways to “get around” needing someone else or group please list all pointers here. I’d like to be able to toggle nocap and fast repop then solo cycle ettins without taking damage. Please tell me how.
:twisted:
Yeah, I’d like some more details how to cheat ..err.. I mean how to use the ‘features’ in order to solo insanely powerful group mobs with my old school tank (you know - tanks, the ones that are supposed to be buff and take all the damage more than any other class, but are actually pretty fark’n useless without at least a cleric in attendance and some other classes to actually blast the mob down..)
:evil:
On the other hand, it can be good that it’s possible (even if it should be difficult) to kill just about anything with the right tricks, like for the times when you die doing something stupid (exploring dc/dmount with a level 20, like me), get looted, and can’t convince the active group or any of the ubers to give you a hand. I was more than happy to spend an hour killing each of the mobs that would have taken a group about 40 seconds; not because of any excessive xp (even had it been nocap, i’ve seen people fresh off valk who could get better xp than that), but because it’s so much better to not need to depend on other people than to spend 3 hours failing to get help and lose everything in a crash.
Incidentally, anyone who can get a nightmare can kill just about everything in the mud…eventually.
+1.
I killed overlord with nightmare when it loaded quartz shield.
It took me about 2 hours and shield was just a fake :twisted:
oh, and trick with hermetic resonance is limited by classo too.
you should have mage in your classo because charm person’ is mage’s only spell. and… does hermetic resonance charms work good?
As for me using druid form against Wurr’s proc is bug abusing.
Guess it should be fixed as well as prediction.
Waaaaaaahhhh :cry: